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Archbishop of Mosul: "I have lost my Diocese to Islam - You in the West...
Rorate Caeli ^ | 8/17/14 | New Catholic

Posted on 08/17/2014 12:19:31 PM PDT by BlatherNaut

Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future. I lost my diocese. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. But my community is still alive.

Please, try to understand us. Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.

Archbishop Amel Nona Chaldean Catholic Archeparch of Mosul, now exiled in Erbil


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; civilization; demography; immigration; iraq; isil; isis; islam; jihad; mosul; sharia; westernciv; westerncivilization; wot
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To: livius

“Did anybody notice that in the Ferguson riots, the black highway patrol chief essentially put the Black Panthers and the Black Muslims in charge, and thanked them for all they were doing? I saw a number of those silly red Black Muslim fezzes in the riots and “demonstrations.” That’s where it’s going to come from, and that’s what Holder is working for.”

Have you also have noticed in the last few years Americans have been buying A LOT of guns and gun sales have GONE UP BIGTIME because of concerns such as you have stated in the above?


41 posted on 08/17/2014 3:19:34 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: sitetest

Quote- Islam must be destroyed..

I think America’s state religion of secular humanism, that has been pumped throughout the world, must be destroyed first.

Maybe the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has a different order than both of us...


42 posted on 08/17/2014 3:21:45 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Rather both to be destroyed.


43 posted on 08/17/2014 3:28:20 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: delchiante

Correction, BOTH NEED to be destroyed.


44 posted on 08/17/2014 3:30:12 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: El Cid

+1


45 posted on 08/17/2014 3:30:20 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: corlorde

Jesus told the disciples to get swords and Peter answered Him that they had two and He said that it was enough.

Jesus telling His disciples to arm themselves.

Interesting.


46 posted on 08/17/2014 4:09:02 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: cloudmountain
I answered that our good God allowed Islam to become a reality, thrive and grow.

God also allowed AIDS to become reality, thrive and grow. Same with the Ebola virus and Communism. What's your point? Have you not read about God's chastisements in the Old Testament?

47 posted on 08/17/2014 4:26:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: WriteOn
The Crusaders fought to save Jerusalem from whom?

SOURCE: INTERNET:

Cause of the Crusades

The reason and cause of the crusades was a war between Christians and Moslems which centered around the city of Jerusalem and the Holy places of Palestine.

The City of Jerusalem held a Holy significance to the Christian religion. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem commemorated the hill of crucifixion and the tomb of Christ's burial.

Pilgrims throughout the Middle Ages made sacred pilgrimages to the Holy city of Jerusalem and the church. Although the city of Jerusalem was held by the Saracens the Christian pilgrims had been granted safe passage to visit the Holy city.

In 1065 Jerusalem was taken by the Turks, who came from the kingdom of ancient Persia. 3000 Christians were massacred and the remaining Christians were treated so badly that throughout Christendom people were stirred to fight in crusades. These actions aroused a storm of indignation throughout Europe and awakened the desire to rescue the Holy Land from the grasp of the "infidel."

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Didn't you ever take world history?
One doesn't eliminate a FAITH, one eliminateds the followers of that faith. Ideas don't get eliminated, just the PEOPLE who follow those ideas. But, you know that.

The only way Islam could be eliminated would be to eliminate all Muslims.
Is that what you would want? I doubt it.
It THAT your goal? I doubt it.

48 posted on 08/17/2014 4:54:23 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: peter the great
People were on their knees praying the Rosary during the Battle of Lepanto. We need something like that to happen again. It's the reason Europe never spoke Arabic as its basic language.

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LEPANTO, 7 OCTOBER 1571: The Defense of Europe

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49 posted on 08/17/2014 4:59:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlatherNaut
Beware the Ctrypto-muslim in the WH

Crypto-Islam is the secret adherence to Islam while publicly professing to be of another faith; people who practice crypto-Islam are referred to as "crypto-Muslims".

The word has mainly been used in reference to Spanish Muslims during the Inquisition (i.e., the Moriscos and their usage of Aljamiado). Related to this term are the concepts of crypto-Muslim subgroups, such as crypto-Sunni Muslims and crypto-Shia Muslims. Each of these Muslim subgroups has suffered persecution at various times under various leaders where it was advantageous to appear as part of the dominant (sometimes also Muslim) group.

Some mention was made of the concept during the 2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign in accusations directed towards President Barack Obama. From 1969 to 1971, Obama attended a secular Indonesian state primary school.[1] Although Obama has family and ancestors with divergent religious views, he has repeatedly stated he is a Christian and has never been a Muslim.[2]

Syed Abbas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib (Arabic: ?????? ?? ??? ??????) (c. 566 – c. 653 AD), a wealthy merchant, was a paternal uncle and companion of Muhammad, only a few years his senior. During the early years of Islam he protected Muhammad while he was in Mecca, but only officially adopted the religion after the Battle of Badr in 624 AD. He concealed his faith, from the Quraishites and was the principal advocate for the Aqaba Pledge. His descendants founded the Abbassid caliphate in 750 AD.


50 posted on 08/17/2014 4:59:50 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: BlatherNaut

I sincerely doubt ANY of the current Congress would stand behind Adams’ statement if asked their opinion.

I doubt half of them could even understand it.


51 posted on 08/17/2014 5:08:56 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: cloudmountain

But I am afraid it will happen again, better known as a world war.


52 posted on 08/17/2014 5:20:14 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: BlatherNaut

***You will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.***

Like the soulless vampire who cannot hurt you until you invite him into your home.


53 posted on 08/17/2014 5:45:16 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
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To: NorthMountain; El Cid

Adams and Washington also knew about the Barbary Coast Pirates and in fact 15% of the revenue of the nwe USA was to pay these pirates for unfettered passage. The new USA was very pacifistic and it was thought that 15% was to avoid war. But that pacifism did not last as more was demanded by the pirates. Jefferson was forced to send the Navy to battle the pirates.

Posts 15 and 21 I believe more accurately cover the real reasoning the Founders had in ignoring Islam.

But I still think the Founders had no idea that Islam is a cult or religion that cannot be made by the force of law to coexist with other belief systems. The reason we see them now in apparent coexistence is because their numbers are small. As soon as they grow large enough, we will see them emerge to change law favoring their religious beliefs and squelching all others.

The Muslem creed is one where if anyone says anything that is disrespectful to their religion, the adherents take it as a personal insult to their prophet/god Mohammed and they are ‘hurt’ by such criticisms. Hurt always leads to anger and anger uncontrolled leads to violence. The only way to calm Muslims is to submit to their doctrine. They are a cult of conquering anything and everything that is not Muslem. There is no way for them to coexist over the long term with any others.

Whereas Christians take criticism everyday and acknowledge they are sinners who must nevertheless try to understand and repent of their condition that they can do nothing about. Christians are left to defending, never offending although history has counterexamples.

I just don’t think the early Founders knew what it must be like to have Muslims in great numbers living next to them. They knew of their piracy and deceit and crazy beliefs, but not the steady encroachment and uncompromising cultural transformations that Muslims today never stop pushing for and can’t stop pushing for. There is one example in history that I know of where my statement doesn’t seem to fit, and that is the history of Ataturk in Turkey.


54 posted on 08/17/2014 5:59:52 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: BlatherNaut
you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values.

Hmmmmmmmm.... Celebrate diversity.... Celebrate diversity!... I can't HEAR YOU!.... Hmmmmmm....

55 posted on 08/17/2014 6:05:18 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Hostage

Well they are doing what their god, the ENEMY say, who was from the begining a “liar, thief, and a murderer”.


56 posted on 08/17/2014 6:07:32 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: cloudmountain

By stopping them I mean stopping them from entering the U.S. no FLIGHT SCHOOLS.. no Work Visas...no residency period.


57 posted on 08/17/2014 7:29:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: cloudmountain

I dont want them HERE in the US at all. Period.

if the french had stopped their influx several decades ago they wouldnt be on the fast track to becoming a mooselim majority nation in the next five years.


58 posted on 08/17/2014 7:31:42 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: 353FMG

God blesses the righteous...and often openly punishes wicked acts....or the sinful LACK of necessary action....


59 posted on 08/17/2014 7:32:53 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: cloudmountain

the crusades stopped europe from instant mooselimifaction yes... so in that sense it worrled rather well indeed

europe apparently gave up somewhere along the line since then...and now they will pay the price.


60 posted on 08/17/2014 7:35:03 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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