Posted on 08/14/2014 9:43:41 AM PDT by marshmallow
In an emotionally charged meeting Wednesday, parishioners of Holy Family Catholic Church in northwest suburban Inverness voiced opinions over the firing of their longtime music director, who lost his job after announcing his engagement to his male partner on social media.
Many of the roughly 700 people who attended appeared to support Colin Collette, who received a standing ovation when he entered the sanctuary.
Members of the media were not allowed to attend, but parishioners described the scene afterward.
Collette was terminated from the job he held for 17 years in late July, after being told that his same-sex relationship violates the tenets of the Catholic Church, he said. Collette has said that church leaders knew he was gay long before he posted the announcement of his wedding plans on Facebook.
Kevin Keane of Bartlett, one of dozens of people addressing a panel that included representatives of the Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago, quit his position as cantor in protest of Collette's firing.
“He has given his entire life to the church,” Keane said, repeating a portion of his speech. “That leads me to the conclusion if he's not fit to serve, then I am not fit to serve.”
Others derided the church and called for change.
But some supported the church's decision, such as Frank Girjatowicz of Hoffman Estates.
“I am not against homosexuals,” he said. “But their style of life, according to human nature, is not acceptable.”
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I know you’re trying to be funny but, no they are not.
Maybe he gave his life to the church, but Christ is not within him.
Wouldn't it be better to clean this garbage up at first sight, rather than letting it fester? If you leave garbage laying around, you'll attract roaches and rats.
The problem with liberals/progressives is "analysis paralysis". They see something coming down the road that promises to be a problem. They worry about it. Maybe they bring it up in a staff meeting. Maybe they assign somebody to "study" it.
And by then the whole darned thing has gained such momentum that it oftentimes crushes them.
All he had to do was keep his perversion out of public view. Was that too much to ask?
Not necessarily; celibate? Maybe. Our choir director for many years was Sister Mary Ann, who just retired.
I looked it up.
One of them is sodomy.
Hmmmmmmm ....
The interesting distinction is that the “gay marriage” got the issue brought to a head.
The old way was for a church council, board of elders or other governing body to look at the individual. Individuals are not homosexual, their actions are or are not.
As a sinner, I worship with many other sinners. I don’t expect my fellow worshipers to be without sin but to repent in the form under their condition of membership and attendance.
I knew a fine fellow, very conservative, that went to bat to retain a music director who was a homosexual according to some. This musician was a very properly behaved member, and no actions or behavior had ever been publically displayed — he lived alone and his character was above reproach in all other matters. I admired his actions for an employee then, and I still do today. The employee had no ministerial duties, played the music in church and led the choir for a pittance.
These people, when their actions are sinfull, are at war with God. We have to always be ready to help them turn away from sin and homosexual “marriage” commits them to a life of sin.
So how many were actual active parish members and how many were from the usual suspect activist groups such as Voice of the faithful?
The problem here is unbelieving Catholics (including some priests and bishops) who wanted to keep getting the perks without believing the Faith.
The Church has always taught steadfastly against sodomy, and moreover has always ruled (from the Middle Ages to the present, including a ruling in the 1960s) that homosexual tendencies (not even amounting to conduct) should bar a candidate from seminary. 1. It's a "near occasion of sin" - putting a homosexually inclined individual in close quarters with other men is a constant temptation; 2. A homosexual - unlike a normal man - is not giving up anything for the sake of Christ and His Church. He's more like Willie Sutton in a bank.
You had some priests and a few bishops in the Swinging Sixties and Seventies who decided on their own to jettison much of the Church's teaching - particularly that homosexual conduct wasn't a grave sin. That opened the door to the infestation of predatory homosexuals. A few notorious seminaries became "pink palaces" - I know personally several men who would have been great priests who quit because they couldn't stand the corruption and even persecution.
At this point, it appears that the Church has done a fairly good job of cleaning house. They may have swung too far in the opposite direction (accusation equals conviction) but that may be inevitable for awhile.
That’s good. We’re all sinners, the question is whether you are fighting against that sin . . . or have convinced yourself that it’s actually NOT a sin.
Yep. As I understand it, that list was put together from the Biblical situations where sins became go grievous that God put a stop to them through cataclysmic action. Like the oppression in Egypt that brought on the plagues and the sin of Sodom that brought on the fire and brimstone.
Sadly churches are not only buying into it they are actively promoting it. Pray for the Republic while we still can.
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