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Protestant Tony Palmer Receives Catholic Requiem Mass: Francis Insists Catholic Burial
http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page97/tony_palmer_requiem_mass.html ^

Posted on 08/10/2014 5:38:59 AM PDT by piusv

Father David told us that because Tony [Palmer] was not a Roman Catholic he had to ask his bishop’s permission to celebrate the requiem and though Tony’s wife and children are Roman Catholics, permission still had to be given for the requiem. The bishop agreed but said that Tony could not be buried as a bishop as he was not a Roman Catholic bishop. However, Pope Francis said he should and could be buried as a bishop, and so that put an end to that little bit of ecclesiastical nonsense!”

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To: ebb tide

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2007/07/10/catholicism_only_true_church_pope.html

“He said, “A basic unity – of churches that remain Churches, yet become one Church – must replace the idea of conversion”

The key word is “Churches”.

Only the Catholic Church and Orthodox Church are Christian churches. All Christian faiths born out of the Reformation, due to the fact they have no apostolic sucession, are not Churches, but ecclesial communities.

And in both instances, 1966 and 2007 Benedict was talking about Churches, not protestants that claim to be Christian but really are not, only members of ecclesial “communities”.

If you want to be a Christian either become Catholic or Orthodox, it’s pretty simple.


21 posted on 08/10/2014 10:55:23 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
And in both instances, 1966 and 2007 Benedict was talking about Churches, not protestants that claim to be Christian but really are not, only members of ecclesial “communities”.

Now you are just making things up out of thin air.

Why did Pope Benedict give the protestant, Brother Roger, Holy Communion?

Why did Pope Benedict give the Archdruid, Rowan Williams, a pectoral cross?

22 posted on 08/10/2014 11:13:52 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; metmom; daniel1212; BlueDragon; .45 Long Colt
No irony, just ignorance from the usual suspect.

Look up Can. 1183. O'Malley is Francis' mini-me, and Ted Kennedy being granted a requiem funeral was no more appropriate than Palmer's.

23 posted on 08/10/2014 11:36:24 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: piusv

Not a clue.


24 posted on 08/10/2014 11:42:07 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NKP_Vet

The Orthodox church is still not the One True Church. It too must return to the Catholic Church. Your post doesn’t explain or clear anything up.


25 posted on 08/10/2014 11:59:40 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Agreed.


26 posted on 08/10/2014 12:00:05 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

“Bishop” Tony’s final contribution to the “convergence movement”, courtesy of Pope Francis. Would Francis also approve of Pentecostal “Holy Laughter” funerals for Catholics, since he apparently views Catholicism and other religions as interchangeable? Poor Palmer said he wanted to convert, yet Francis dissuaded him. Was Palmer more Catholic at heart than our current Pope?

“O Jesus, have mercy on Thy Holy Church; take care of it.”


27 posted on 08/10/2014 12:19:20 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: cloudmountain

You don’t know if your husband and mother died after the Second Vatican Council?


28 posted on 08/10/2014 12:40:58 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: piusv

The first heresy was Gnosticism, followed by Arianism, then Monophysitism. Then some other heresies. Then Islam (which was a blend of Heresy, heretical Gnosticism & paganism). Then the Denial of the Filioque. But there is a simple solution to which all Catholics (both Roman-Rite & Eastern Catholics) AND Eastern Orthodox can agree: “Holy Spirit who proceeds from the Father ‘THROUGH’ the Son”. There, fixed for both sides (without making compromises), can we reunite now? When the Catholics & the Eastern Orthodoxs reunite, all of Christendom shall come together. Protestants & other heretics will cease to be, & will see the truth of Catholicism & join in full Communion. Christianity will be one as Christ prayed to the Father, & Islam & secularism will have no hold on us.


29 posted on 08/10/2014 12:48:16 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: ebb tide

“Why did Pope Benedict give the protestant, Brother Roger, Holy Communion”

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0504883.htm

“Why did Pope Benedict give the Archdruid, Rowan Williams, a pectoral cross”.

I don’t think it’s appropriate, no matter who does it. The pectoral cross is a symbol of episcopal authority, which Anglicans do not and cannot have.


30 posted on 08/10/2014 1:12:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
I don’t think it’s appropriate, no matter who does it. The pectoral cross is a symbol of episcopal authority, which Anglicans do not and cannot have.

So how are you so certain what Fr. Ratzinger was talking about in 1966?

31 posted on 08/10/2014 1:24:34 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Benedict is a lot smarter than I am, but I don’t think presenting a pectoral cross to any bishop other than a Roman Catholic bishop is right. But that’s me. Maybe I’m wrong. Benedict must have had his reasons. I wouldn’t have done it.


32 posted on 08/10/2014 1:41:32 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

You really simplify the differences between the Orthodox and the Catholic Church. We will reunite when the Orthodox become Catholic. Until then the Orthodox Church is schismatic and should not be considered on equal grounds.


33 posted on 08/10/2014 1:48:42 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
President Obama and three former presidents attended Senator Kennedy’s funeral.  I had the opportunity to speak briefly with President Obama, to welcome him to the Basilica and to share with him that the bishops of the Catholic Church are anxious to support a plan for universal health care, but we will not support a plan that will include a provision for abortion or could open the way to abortions in the future.  The President was gracious in the short time we spoke, he listened intently to what I was saying.

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Democrats and Republicans sat side by side in the Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Help, praying for Senator Kennedy and his family.

http://www.cardinalseansblog.org/2009/09/02/on-senator-kennedys-funeral/

34 posted on 08/11/2014 7:05:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Alex Murphy
During a special ecumenical worship service in Sudbury, Cardinal Sean O'Malley asked the Rev. Anne Robertson of Plymouth to administer a baptism reaffirmation ritual to him. (George Martell/Pilot New Media)During a special ecumenical worship service in Sudbury, Cardinal Sean O'Malley asked the Rev. Anne Robertson of Plymouth to administer a baptism reaffirmation ritual to him. (George Martell/Pilot New Media)
By Lane Lambert
Posted Jan. 14, 2014 @ 12:01 am
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By Lane Lambert http://www.patriotledger.com/x890778978/To-a-female-Methodist-minister-a-surprise-request-from-Cardinal-O-Malley?zc_p=0
35 posted on 08/11/2014 7:32:56 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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