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Pope Francis At It Again (Comrade Frank)
National Catholic Reporter ^ | Jun. 17, 2014 | Michael Sean Winters

Posted on 06/17/2014 9:05:04 AM PDT by Gamecock

I am pretty sure the editors of the Wall Street Journal would be disinclined to endorse Pope Francis' call for international regulation of markets via state action, to promote impact investment. Yet, that is just what he called for yesterday in speaking to a meeting at the Vatican on the theme "Investing in the Poor," which was organized, in part, by the University of Notre Dame. The pope said:

Advances in technology have increased the speed of financial transactions, but in the long run this is significant only to the extent that it better serves the common good. In this regard, speculation on food prices is a scandal which seriously compromises access to food on the part of the poorest members of our human family. It is urgent that governments throughout the world commit themselves to developing an international framework capable of promoting a market of high impact investments, and thus to combating an economy which excludes and discards.

No spinning that is there. I am sure our libertarian friends think this pope just keeps wandering down the road to serfdom.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: popefrancis; redistribution; reparations; romancatholicism
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1 posted on 06/17/2014 9:05:04 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: ConservingFreedom; Alex Murphy
Sez Frank: It is urgent that governments throughout the world commit themselves to developing an international framework capable of promoting a market of high impact investments, and thus to combating an economy which excludes and discards.
2 posted on 06/17/2014 9:05:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock
"speculation on food prices is a scandal which seriously compromises access to food"

That is patently false.

Stick with G-d, and leave economics to business people. We'll deliver the food because we're self interested in doing so. Alternate economics for delivering food have been much less successful. See China, 1950s, North Korea, recently, etc.

3 posted on 06/17/2014 9:07:54 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: Gamecock

What is the Pope’s preferred price setting mechanism?

If he hasn’t a plan, then STFU.


4 posted on 06/17/2014 9:08:26 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: Gamecock

Jesus said: “You will always have the poor among you, and you can help them whenever you want to.” Mk 14:7

Sorry pope but you appear to be a communista.


5 posted on 06/17/2014 9:09:27 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Gamecock

Mistranslated again, perhaps.


6 posted on 06/17/2014 9:09:31 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Stick with G-d, and leave economics to business people.

And how do we know that he gets God right?

7 posted on 06/17/2014 9:10:13 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: Uncle Miltie
What is the Pope’s preferred price setting mechanism?

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need . . . . .

8 posted on 06/17/2014 9:10:15 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Uncle Miltie

‘Alternate economics for delivering food have been much less successful. See China, 1950s, North Korea, recently, etc.’

See Venezuela!

“Hundreds of National Guardsmen in riot gear and armoured vehicles prevented an “empty pots march” from reaching Venezuela’s food ministry on Saturday to protest against chronic food shortages.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/09/venezuela-protest-food-shortages


9 posted on 06/17/2014 9:11:50 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The Pope’s hated speculation in food prices is illegal in Venezuela.

People are starving.

Way to go, Comrade Pope.


10 posted on 06/17/2014 9:14:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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To: Gamecock

Man does not live by bread alone.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 9:15:55 AM PDT by Paulie
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To: Uncle Miltie

Well I thought it would be apt since Venezuela is in his part of the world, but I didn’t know that about food price speculation being illegal. Thanks for bolstering my point!


12 posted on 06/17/2014 9:16:38 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Gamecock

I’m pretty much alarmed at Pope Francis’ economic illiteracy. This guy isn’t stupid, but he’s in waaayyy over his head, intellectually, failing to recognize that his immediate two predecessors had a knack for such commentary on such a wide range of subjects because they were absolute geniuses, that they could immediately distill truth out of hundreds of conflicting theories.

However, speculation on food prices is the modern equivalent to hoarding, and it is, quote in fact, spectacularly evil. Especially, in this case, because the hoarders aren’t driven by self-preservation, merely pure profit motive.

And while the NCR is more socialist than Catholic, there is no need to adopt socialism to prevent speculation; it’s a problem which has attracted libertarian and other free-market approaches.


13 posted on 06/17/2014 9:19:08 AM PDT by dangus
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My limited knowlege of speculation is that without speculation you won’t have price swings but you will have empty shelves.


14 posted on 06/17/2014 9:24:18 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Mistranslated again, perhaps.

I'd bet on that.

15 posted on 06/17/2014 9:28:19 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Gamecock

Oh, lookie, lookie, lookie! The REAL quote, IN CONTEXT, promotes FREE-MARKET solutions and INDIVIDUAL CHOICES as to how to invest in a more Christian light:

Impact investors are those who are conscious of the existence of serious unjust situations, instances of profound social inequality and unacceptable conditions of poverty affecting communities and entire peoples. These investors turn to financial institutes which will use their resources to promote the economic and social development of these groups through investment funds aimed at satisfying basic needs associated with agriculture, access to water, adequate housing and reasonable prices, as well as with primary health care and educational services.

Investments of this sort are meant to have positive social repercussions on local communities, such as the creation of jobs, access to energy, training and increased agricultural productivity. The financial return for investors tends to be more moderate than in other types of investment.

The logic underlying these innovative forms of intervention is one which “acknowledges the ultimate connection between profit and solidarity, the virtuous circle existing between profit and gift … Christians are called to rediscover, experience and proclaim to all this precious and primordial unity between profit and solidarity. How much the contemporary world needs to rediscover this beautiful truth!” (Preface to the book of Cardinal Gerhard Müller, Povera per i poveri. La missione della Chiesa [“Poor for the Poor.” The Mission of the Church]).

It is important that ethics once again play its due part in the world of finance and that markets serve the interests of peoples and the common good of humanity. It is increasingly intolerable that financial markets are shaping the destiny of peoples rather than serving their needs, or that the few derive immense wealth from financial speculation while the many are deeply burdened by the consequences.

Advances in technology have increased the speed of financial transactions, but in the long run this is significant only to the extent that it better serves the common good. In this regard, speculation on food prices is a scandal which seriously compromises access to food on the part of the poorest members of our human family. It is urgent that governments throughout the world commit themselves to developing an international framework capable of promoting a market of high impact investments, and thus to combating an economy which excludes and discards.


16 posted on 06/17/2014 9:28:52 AM PDT by dangus
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17 posted on 06/17/2014 9:29:09 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: painter

Not mistranslated, but out of context.


18 posted on 06/17/2014 9:29:21 AM PDT by dangus
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**It is urgent that governments throughout the world commit themselves to developing an international framework**

Central Planning at it's finest.

19 posted on 06/17/2014 9:30:25 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: dangus

Yep,I thought so!


20 posted on 06/17/2014 9:32:48 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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