Posted on 05/02/2014 12:28:06 AM PDT by GonzoII
He wasn't being tortured for his faith.
He didn't die a martyr.
And which of those things did he do NAILED TO A CROSS?
Fer cryin' out loud. He didn't have TIME to do any of it.
That's the beauty of salvation by faith in Christ. It's NOT dependent on our works or anything else we do or did.
The righteousness of God is credited to our account. We can't do enough good works in the world to even begin to compare to that.
It's like someone showing a child the Mona Lisa and the kid takes a crayon and draws on it, thinking it's making it better or that he drew the painting himself.
No... you need not. For to continue would be to continue to pervert the Gospel.
He had faith. Remember the little ditty in Ephesians 2?
"1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ— by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." (Ephesians 2:1-10 ESV)
God made us alive together with Christ while we were yet dead in trespasses and sins. Get that? MADE us alive. As in, accomplished something. As in nothing else need to be done to MAKE us alive together with Christ. And if that's not clear, the next line:
"...for by grace you have been saved --"
is a reminder that the grace of God saves us... not our works. We're raised up with Christ and seated with Him in the heavenly places. Note the present tense "we are" -- not "we will be...."
And then, the reminder in full -- and here is what you need to continue to do: read this over, and over, and over and over again until you flush out the false gospel being taught by Roman Catholicism regarding salvation... continue to read these glorious, wonderful words:
" For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."
Catch that? "This is not your own doing" means just that: we DO NOTHING to accomplish this; God saves us, we don't save us. Our faith's conduit is through God's grace -- by grace through faith, the faith that God gives us, get it? -- faith in Christ and his finished work on the cross for us. Our works are a RESULT of our faith, not a precondition for salvation.
So, please, do not continue -- at least in the ways of the world and false teachings of Rome; instead turn to Christ; seek his face through God's word, not man's tradition.
Hoss
Amen, and Amen! See 145. Forgot to ping you.
Sorry!
Hoss
AMEN
They are deceiving people into thinking there is a 2nd chance after death.
From a human worldly view, wouldn`t it be terrific if there was a 2nd chance to either accept or reject Christ, but it`s not in the Bible
The idea that there was a 2nd chance I would think would be offensive to God, meaning that Christs death on the cross was in vain
And we know it was NOT in vain
By Phil Lawler (bio - articles - email) | May 02, 2014
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In Columbus, Ohio, a campaign of door-to-door evangelization, conducted by a small group of religious sisters from Mexico, has produced remarkable results in bringing lapsed Catholics back to church. Working in Hispanic neighborhoods, the sisters bring a contagious enthusiasm for the faith, Father David Schalk tells the Columbus Dispatch: “It’s what Pope Francis has.”
There’s nothing special about the sisters’ approach, other than that enthusiasm—and the results. There’s no high-tech gimmickry, no grand scheme. The sisters, members of the Missionary Servants of the Word, show a genuine love for the faith, and care for the people. They’re credited with helping drug addicts and alcoholics to reform, helping broken families reconcile. And as for relations with the local parishes, the Dispatch reports: “St. Stephen has moved from having one Spanish-language Mass a week to four.”
On the Good (OTG) is a service of CatholicCulture.org.
Completely outpaced by the spread of Iglesia Bautista churches all across the areas heavily populated by recent immigration from south of the border. I know every little town around here seems to have at least one. Protestant Hispanics are far more likely to vote conservative, too. Ever wonder why?
They’re not “scientists” either. ;o)
Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left. And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, And saying , Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said ,He saved others; himself he cannot save . If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said , I am the Son of God. The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth .
And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left. And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors. And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, Save thyself, and come down from the cross. Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save. Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.
And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.
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Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
He had plenty of time of agonizing torture he had to endure. I speculate the adversary tried to get him to renounce his new faith and revile the LORD again before he died (he had already done this according to Matthew and Mark; only Luke has his repentance and faith). I am persuaded he endured faithfully to the end, based on Jesus' prophecy.
Much like the Roman Catholic Church. Yet all of the scripture shown to you heretofore expounds the facts.
I pray your eyes are opened. Take care.
Hoss
LOL!
Like I said many protestant faiths DO NOT BELIEVE baptism is necessary!
When was the last time you heard a protestant pastor baptise someone in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Hardly ever! They stick their head under water and holler
“I baptise you in the name of JESUS”!!
Try answering my posts instead of ignoring them when you can’t refute them. It’s getting old.
Every single baptism I've ever witnessed over the course of 37 years of being a Christian.
Hardly ever! They stick their head under water and holler “I baptise you in the name of JESUS”!!
And you know this how? You witnessed it yourself? Repeatedly? Every single time?
Who did this and when?
How many are you eyewitness accounts to? When the Catholic church accepts as valid a Protestant baptism, it by default acknowledges that it was done according to the Trinitarian formula.
So since the Catholic church accepts as valid the baptism of Protestant denominations, then why are you disagreeing with the Catholic church?
Isn't that a sin of some sort or another?
And the Catholics had people killed who wanted their own copy of the Bible. I did not realize it was so bad until I was doing genealogy research on my late husband’s ancestors. The Catholics did not want the common people to have their own copy which they could read for themselves. Why were they so afraid of that?
Thank you for saying what I was thinking.
You do not know what you are saying. People from the SBC go all over the world doing that plus in parts of this country. Where did you get that idea anyway? People from my church went to the last Olympics to share God’s word. I think most Protestant churches do some kind of mission work. After severe storms, teams are sent out to do anything needed to help people. They wash clothes, prepare meals, remove fallen trees, repair houses, etc.
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