Posted on 02/07/2014 6:11:36 AM PST by CynicalBear
The best academic pre-trib resource:
- The Pre-trib Research Center
Next time anyone tells you the PreTrib concept was a “Jesuit” invention, go there
By "scoffers", of course, you mean "anyone who dares to disagree with me."
It’s very simple, if you refuse to believe in the truth, you will become blinded to it.
And there is the core of the argument: the author is, in his mind, the infallible interpreter of Scripture.
If you disagree with him, you are not really disagreeing with a mere mortal - you are actually "refus[ing] to believe in the truth" itself.
If you do not see things the author's way, you are not seeing them differently - you are actually not seeing anything at all - you have "become blinded."
The author's arrogance is breathtaking.
His ignorance is less surprising.
Oh yeah, Bible truth from the church that esteems God’s Word to be about as valuable, powerful and authoritative as a pretty good hymnal.
No thanks.
According to the scoffers, the modern state of Israel shouldn’t even exist.
All it took for preterism and replacementism to roar back was for a couple of generations to go by before Israel’s existence is no longer “news” anymore.
That is a good site! Lot’s of good material there.
Because there is a thoughtfully argued case in the book CC cited.
So you have no scripture showing where he is in error?
The problem with the writers line of reasoning is very typical of religious writers. He seems to be saying that if you don’t agree with the pre-trib viewpoint then a spiritual problem is evident. I have always wondered why so much emphasis is placed on this issue in some circles. Pre, post, mid, trib. God is not asking for my opinion. Seems much like sports fans who somehow think they can influence the outcome of a game by wearing lucky clothes, or in the case of my daughter, she is convinced that recording her favorite team’s game will result in a loss. God doesn’t need my approval or my correct opinion to act. It is what it is regardless of what i think or don’t think.
I never have understood the amount of hysteria this subject generates. We are logs in a stream carried out to sea by multi millennial events. Why waste ink with sneering self importance when the outcome, whatever it is, is preordained? I don’t get it.
“As a thief veils his presence from those he wishes to steal from, so the Lord has veiled the doctrine of the Pre-Tribulation coming for His church. That may be construed by some as a loaded statement, for sure.”
Loaded? Sure. Offensive? You bet. The metaphor is bankrupt, with a twinge (or more) of blasphemy. The metaphor compares the Lord to a thief. It takes the breath away. It makes you wonder where the writer is really going with this.
The headline is hilarious. Google search “define trib” to understand why tribulation abbreviated this way takes on a very different meaning.
Let’s put it this way... “Trib” is probably very popular with Ellen Degeneres, Hillary Clinton, and Rosie O’Donnell.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
The fact that the nation of Israel even exists today and it’s implication goes right over many peoples heads.
Then I would suppose this article is of no interest to you.
Scripture did describe His coming as a “thief in the night”.
And gay doesn’t mean happy or jovial any more. Language does change over time doesn’t it. I suppose working within our sphere of understanding takes on meaning.
“If Satan knew exactly when the “Thief” would come to snatch away His sheep, he may very likely launch a mass extermination operation to kill them off before their Shepherd could come to rescue them.”
That would presuppose that God had the inability to react tactically to Satan’s mass extermination attempt. We note that Christ was spirited away before Herod could have him killed in a sweeping slaughter of toddlers two and under. We note that Satan himself must have been somewhat blinded as to Christ’s location or else he would have had him surgically pin pointed and killed without the surrounding carnage.
Satan would have had us all rounded up and exterminated as quickly as he could long ago, whether or not he knew when Christ’s arrival would be. There are barriers that Satan is also forced to run. He would have had the entire race of humans destroyed and our planet reduced to cinders just to prove God couldn’t stand by his promises, there-bye causing the implosion of all creation.
Ah Lord...we can’t help but love you, we are dependent upon you for the very energy our molecular make ups need just to stay together. We love you because you first loved us. What else can we say or do, but lower our eyes in the shame of the shambles that hubris and pride have reduced each of us (and our land) to. Forgive us oh Lord, we ask in in Jesus’ name, have mercy on us, and preserve some portion of our America that righteous folk may yet take a refuge in. Amen.
I came to Christ in a pre-Trib church. I spent years being taught pre-Trib teachings. I believed that pre-Trib was the only answer.
Then I read and heard an atrib preacher go through the same scriptures and make a reasoned argument which made me realize that there room to differ and I will just have to wait and see.
It does interest me. But for reasons that are different from yours. The article perfectly illustrates a circle the wagons mindset. Bearded clerics in dirty robes glancing suspiciously at each other eagerly looking for a heretic amongst their own kind.
Ditto to your post. In fact pre-trip was a cornerstone doctrine. Now i ask why is this a cornerstone doctrine. An interesting hobby perhaps but a cornerstone doctrine?
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