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The Holy Trinity: Sound Doctrine or a Man-Made Tradition?
ArticleSeen.com ^ | Aug-28-2011 | Steve-O

Posted on 01/12/2014 7:49:32 PM PST by restornu

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Poor excuse Yikes talk about hold a grudge what kind of Christian are you sir?

BTW the way it seems it was the other way around tar an feather chasing folks out of their living quarters in the dead of winter killing the prophet and the Lord’s servant etc.

I recall those in Jesus time who disagree with Him with using whips and crucifixion. But I never ever remember Jesus using those tactic.

Well you see where it has got the Lord’s Church it is covering the whole face of the earth with Zion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au9KiwEpyrw


301 posted on 01/14/2014 9:05:49 AM PST by restornu (Luke 24:39... for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have)
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To: Elsie

did someone say that Mormons become ghosts ???

how does that jive with the sex in the Mormon afterlife and making babies for ever thingy ???


302 posted on 01/14/2014 9:07:41 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

If you ain’t got a current Temple Recommend; just SHUT UP!!!


You got that right, but on the other hand if they were worthy maybe they would not be here on free republic with the rest of us.

One thing sure though, i am glad i will be judged by God and not the earthly Gods.

And i hope the grace that we are saved by does not include much works of faith, i worry a little there.


303 posted on 01/14/2014 9:08:50 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: restornu
Against my better judgment I will answer you knowing you will have some spike to hurl at me.

Spike?

It's a LIFELINE, Sweetheart!

Get OUT of Mormonism before you go completely nuts!

304 posted on 01/14/2014 9:08:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
(a mere shadow of yourself!:) is a MORMON without a TR!
305 posted on 01/14/2014 9:09:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Poor excuse Yikes talk about hold a grudge what kind of Christian are you sir?

We KNOW you agree with the following!!!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

306 posted on 01/14/2014 9:10:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
But I never ever remember Jesus using those tactic.

Hell NO!

YOUR 'jesus' merely destroys entire CITIES!!

307 posted on 01/14/2014 9:11:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

One you died you shed you temporal body your soul is now disembodied and you are now a Ghost.

(a mere shadow of yourself!:)
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so anyone can be a Mormon holy ghost ???


308 posted on 01/14/2014 9:13:36 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

3 Nephi, Chapter 9, tells us that the Lord destroyed the cities and inhabitants of Gigal, Onihah, Mocum, Jerusalem, Gadiandi, Gadiomnah, Jacob, Gimgimmo, Jacobugath, Laman, Josh, Gad, and Kishkumen.


309 posted on 01/14/2014 9:13:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Ah bookmarked. Thanks. For some the Bible is some sort of “Zen” or “Confucius says” collections of sayings for chicken soup for the soul type consumption.


310 posted on 01/14/2014 9:13:55 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: Elsie

I knew you could not help yourself but I know some seriously wanted to know!


311 posted on 01/14/2014 9:14:43 AM PST by restornu (Luke 24:39... for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have)
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To: restornu

He was feeling his oats back then.

Later on, he couldn’t even destroy one little old woman to stood up to his ‘prophet’!!

Mormonism is a LIE!


312 posted on 01/14/2014 9:15:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
I knew you could not help yourself but I know some seriously wanted to know!

Isn't the albatross of Mormonism around your neck beginning to stink?

313 posted on 01/14/2014 9:16:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
I knew you could not help yourself but I know some seriously wanted to know!

A lot of folks 'seriously want to know' why you have

zero

comments about the FACTS posted about MORMONism.

314 posted on 01/14/2014 9:18:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
whips...I never ever remember Jesus using those tactic

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yes well it is that apostate book called the Bible that mentions the LORD Jesus Christ used a whip...

and after all what Mormon would believe anything the Christian God said ???

315 posted on 01/14/2014 9:18:59 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
>>Many of the mainstream churches were good for milk but they have no meat of the Lord, and one reason for that is that they had no authority because the Lord everlasting priesthood was taken from the earth.<<

Lies from the LDS my dear. Scripture tells us different. Jesus is our High Priest and lives within us.

Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

And He is in us.

Romans 8:10: Paul tells us, "If Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin."

Galatians 2:20: Paul speaks of himself and all true Christians: "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me."

Ephesians 3:17-18: Referring to the "inner man," Paul mentions that he prays "that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith."

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

All true Christians have been given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that the apostles had.

Acts 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness by granting them the Holy Spirit just as he did us. 9 He made no distinction between us and them, for by faith he purified their hearts. All true Christians have been made priests.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

>>One thing I have come to learn those who are not teachable scoff and dismiss things of the Lord.<<

The Holy Spirit inspired the writing of those words above. Are you dismissing and denying that they are true? Are you not teachable from the Holy Word of God? Or do you deny that those are the words of God?

Scripture tells us that Christ dwells within us and that we have been made priests answering only to Him who is our High Priest, Jesus Christ.

Joseph Smith was a false prophet. The Mormon Church has lied to you about who is a priest. I would suggest you get down on your knees and ask the real Holy Spirit to guide you into the truth of what scripture tells us before it is too late.

316 posted on 01/14/2014 9:24:08 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Elsie

This’ll be a tough job, but I’ll look to see if I can find anything. Anything at all...


That was good, maybe it shows that if it is not written down in scripture it just ain,t likely to be trusted, at least thats my view.


317 posted on 01/14/2014 9:33:19 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Elsie

NIV Acts 24:14
that is written in the Prophets,
_____________________________________

well theres another difference between the false religion of Mormonism and its false prophet and Christianity..

Joey Smith didn’t spout any true prophecies...

nor did Brigham Young the 2nd prophet..

even modern day Joseph Fielding Smith had his problems..

in 1961 he declared ex cathedra from the golden chair in Temple Square that man would NEVER reach the moon...oh dear

The present day Mormon “prophet” Tommy Monson is about to expire and become a Mormon holy ghost and a mere shadow of himself and he is more crafty than the rest

Tommy and his 12 yes-men have not made up any “prophesies” at all...

Hes said a lot of dumb unbiblical things but he has not claimed events yet to come..


318 posted on 01/14/2014 9:46:17 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: CynicalBear
You are welcome to your opinion CynicalBear

I testify that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints restored By Jesus Christ through His Prophet Joseph Smith.

In Jesus Christ Name, Amen

319 posted on 01/14/2014 9:55:33 AM PST by restornu (Luke 24:39... for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have)
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To: restornu
>> You are welcome to your opinion CynicalBear<<

The words I quoted from scripture are not mine but are the words of the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit you are disagreeing with, not me. There is no way that you have been listening to the Holy Spirit when you deny His words from scripture. Do so at your own peril.

320 posted on 01/14/2014 10:00:57 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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