Posted on 11/21/2013 6:06:31 AM PST by marshmallow
Post-1939 hymns and gospel songs such as "Mansions of the Lord" (2002) could be added on a case-by-case basis.
Tired of the “Jesus is My Boyfriend” songs.
At least the Catholic Church has revived some of the pre-Vat II responses: the Nicene Creed, “And with your spirit”, the Communion prayer & others are now pre-Novus Ordo.
JMHO, but I think the MSM & liberals in general are sorely mistaken to claim Pope Francis as one of their own. He ministers in person to the sick & the lame while taking his meals in the common refectory, but that doesn’t make him a socialist revolutionary.
Slightly off topic, but I wish the liturgists would do away with the Sign of Peace. Boy do I wish they would do away with it. That’s the biggest Sixties touchy-feely leftover of all. In 1975 I attended Mass where the priest did not call for the SOP. I asked him why & he replied, “Son, I’m the celebrant. When I say `the peace of the Lord be with you all’, that’s all there is, there ain’t no more!”
The Sign of Peace used to be optional. I have been to a Mass where the priest completely skipped it.
Not so sure that with the new translation it is still optional.
I’ll have to ask my priest.
Really, it a rite of forgiveness right before Communion — and I am not necessarily a proponent of it. But when you are reaching out to the person next to you, they are a stand-in for someone you really need to forgive. (Could be a spouse, could be anyone.) At least that’s how it was explained to me.
Organ or piano accompaniment is all that is approved by the GIRM, and they would much prefer organ over the piano.
Organ or piano accompaniment is all that is approved by the GIRM, and they would much prefer organ over the piano.
So no more guitars, hopefully!
You'd be surprised. The pure beauty of architecture and music fill people with reverence, devotion, and holy joy. They were designed to do that. It does make a difference whether you hear the message of the Gospel as part of a rock concert with a thundering base line like every other rock concert you've been to, or whether a folk mass makes it seem all about a hazy love-and-peace flower power '60s world view that makes doing your own thing acceptable, or whether your surroundings fill you with awe at the sheer beauty Christ offers. I know of no one who can hear polyphony in a great cathedral and not be in some way moved, even if he refuses to admit it. It works on the heart and spirit.
.....Or better yet, hymms that are beloved, such as “Amazing Grace” or “How Great Thou Art”.
My idea of good Christian/Catholic music for a Sunday mass would be the very best of the chant or hymms from the last 2,000 years or so.
I would be very happy with either a chant or a beautiful well sung version of “Amazing Grace” for example.
Why the preference for orgin only? I was just was wondering.
Did not the psalms towards the end of the OT book refering to different musical instruments, including string, which gave glory to God in music worship. So it means all musical intruments are GOOD for worship of God.
Thank-you for your kind response. :)
I agree with you. I like a little chanting, a little traditional hymns, but I also like "Here I Am, Lord". The "King of Glory" played with a rousing beat on an acoustic guitar has to be one of my all time favorite songs. I think it's a mistake to assume one kind of music is best for a Mass. Different people, different tastes. Some of us like it mixed up a bit. A lot of this music stuff hits me as snobbery. I don't have a problem with folks who only want one kind of music - the great thing about being Catholic, at least in or near a major city, is that there's probably a parish that meets your personal preferences. My own parish mixes it up a bit. We might hear the Salve Regina chanted after communion with On Eagles' WIngs as the recessional at the same Mass. I'm fine with it.
“At least the Catholic Church has revived some of the pre-Vat II responses: the Nicene Creed, “And with your spirit”, the Communion prayer & others are now pre-Novus Ordo.”
The Catholic Church did it not just to go back to its “spiritual roots”, as well to match it up with the Latin language, but also to “quiet down” those Catholics who missed the TLM.
IMHO, I view Pope Francis as simply being more of a “pastoral” Pope, one who ministers from the heart, unlike his predicessor Pope Benedict XVI Emeritus as being more of the head or theological.
AMEN to that. As long as the songs are reverent is all that is important.
Exactly. I can’t imagine that people would leave a parish over the music. And in real life I don’t know anybody who has. But on the internet, people do seem to express a real preference. I guess my preference - to the extent I have one - is to mix things up a bit.
Psalm 150 does refer to different musical instruments, which also extends to both “harp and lyre” as well as “flutes and strings” which give God GLORY.
Mixing it up is much better anyways as long as God is given the glory.
Many are mistaken if they think the music is all that needs a-fixing. The New Mass was completely overhauled to make it more modernist and ecumenical. No wonder it looks and sounds hollow.
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