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I Love Talking To Ex-Mormon Atheists
Mormon Coffee (blog.mrm.org) ^ | March 7, 2013 | Aaron Shafovaloff

Posted on 03/12/2013 9:27:52 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: SeaHawkFan

Not uncommon = common.


21 posted on 03/12/2013 11:11:02 AM PDT by stormer
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To: SeaHawkFan
I did not say it was common, only that it was not all that uncommon.

You post a smear from "a former mormon friend" of yours and "she confirmed".

What is "not uncommon" sure reads as "is common" in my opinion. If not, please explain the difference.

IMO it is all too "common" on these threads for mormon defenders to smear and slander when they cannot provide facts to rebut the information that is posted here....or should I say, "it is not an UNCOMMON practice?

22 posted on 03/12/2013 11:16:03 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: SeaHawkFan; Elsie

some who leave the Mormon church conclude there are no moral restraints and act accordingly.
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Why would they need to leave ???

Its within Mormonism that the lack of moral restraints and acting accordingly occur..

Mormonism was invented to cover up and excuse immoral behavior...

the basic tenet of the false religion is adultery...

d&c 132 is still a vald part of the religions beliefs..

many people have left when they found out that the inventer of Mormonism, Joey Smith, was a serial adulterer with 40+ women at least 11 of them already married to other men...

the last “prophet” of Mormonism died in 1945 still practicing polygamy..

as did all of them before and after 1890...


24 posted on 03/12/2013 11:30:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: WilliamRobert

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


25 posted on 03/12/2013 11:39:26 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: WilliamRobert

Yes well the hatred that Mormons have for the LORD Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible and Christians is evil...

but at least the Mormons dont behead us anymore because we are Christians or exterminate us and steal from us and steal our women because we are Christians any more...

at least I dont think so...

However their ugly words can be killers...

and they do come to our doors to bash us...

Say can you deo something about your hateful 50,000 Mormon salersmen/”missionaries” with their poopy mouths ???

I dont like being attacked verbally by Mormons at my own door because I am a Christian...

surely thats a hate crime...


26 posted on 03/12/2013 11:39:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

That is quite true. In fact, there is excellent data showing that people largely base their opinion as to the truth of a statement on the intensity with which the person telling them shows that HE believes it. Thus the eternal story of the fanatic gathering followers, the cult leader, etc.

There are many accounts of nurses and doctors being drawn into a paranoid schyzo’s fantasies, helping him escape from the loony bin, etc. NOBODY believes what he says more intensely than a paranoid schyzo. Which makes him very convincing to many people.


27 posted on 03/12/2013 11:51:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Tennessee Nana
I dont like being attacked verbally by Mormons at my own door because I am a Christian...

Color me skeptical. I've had many conversations with Mormon missionaries and they have always been polite to a fault. I assume they are trained to be this way, as indeed anybody filling this role must be to be effective.

Do you believe that anyone who disagrees with you is thereby attacking you verbally?

28 posted on 03/12/2013 11:55:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Vigilanteman
If the rank and file of (name any major religion) voted like Mormons, BO would never have been . . . re-elected in 2012.

That could be interpreted in two ways. I've never paid attention to the percentage of LDS registered voters who voted, or LDS members of age who are registered voters.

I do know, from Pew and other polls, that a higher percentage of 'evangelical Christians' voted for Mitt Romney over Obama than did LDS members. Romney received only 78% of the LDS vote in 2012. Non-hispanic Catholics voted at a higher rate for Romney than did LDS voters.

29 posted on 03/12/2013 12:12:46 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (EndItNowMovement.com)
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To: Sherman Logan; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian; svcw; fishtank; colorcountry; ejonesie22; ...
Sherman states: I've had many conversations with Mormon missionaries and they have always been polite to a fault.

Nana states I dont like being attacked verbally by Mormons at my own door because I am a Christian...

Perhaps it doesn't occur to some that the very fact that the message mormon missionaries bring to the doors of Christians is an attack on their faith. Their message is that the mormon church is "the only true church on the face of the earth" and "the only way to salvation is through taking part in arcane rituals in mormon temples."

You ask, "Do you believe that anyone who disagrees with you is thereby attacking you verbally?"...."disagree" is a false description of the mormon message...that message is a frontal attack on the belief of a Christian, comparable with someone knocking on your door and saying, "Sherman, your child is the ugliest thing I have ever seen."

That has been the message sent out by the mormon church to the world for 180 years.

30 posted on 03/12/2013 12:15:48 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: WilliamRobert

You mean like this:

“No, I don’t. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak.
Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, LDS Church News, June 20, 1998

Christianity, is a perfect pack of nonsense, the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century.
Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167

The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God.
Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:171

Brother Taylor has just said that the religions of the day were hatched in hell. The eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and then kicked on to the earth.”
Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 6:176

Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom.
Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, 10:127

Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast.
Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses 13:225

What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing. Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God. Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses 13:225

The Book of Mormon remains secure, unchanged and unchangeable … but with the Bible it was not and is not so, it was once in the sole and exclusive care and custody of an abominable organization (Christianity), founded by the devil himself, likened prophetically unto a great whore, whose great aim and purpose was to destroy the souls of men in the name of religion. In these hands it ceased to be the book it once was.
Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Joseph Smith Translation, pp. 12, 13


31 posted on 03/12/2013 12:28:45 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Sorry, I disagree.

Your message equates to any evangelization being a hate crime. Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and indeed anybody else would have an equal right to be offended by a polite Christian calling on them.

After all, Christ said, “Nobody comes to the Father except thru me,” which means all other religions are false, if you take him at his word.

I’m not a Mormon, but I find it really weird for somebody to believe that a Mormon’s beliefs are a personal attack. On this issue, I’m with T. Jefferson. Another man’s beliefs neither pick my pocket nor break my leg.

I hope you realize that until quite recently historically most “Christian” churches had similar attitudes towards other “Christian” churches. Hang around some of the Protestant v. Catholic threads and you’ll see a lot of that attitude is still around.


32 posted on 03/12/2013 12:28:56 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: WilliamRobert

You mean this hate:

1 Nephi 14:10 (Book of Mormon)
“And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the
other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great
church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.”

Louis Midgley, Review of Books on the Book of Mormon, p.11
“The membership of the Mormon church,” Smith writes, “is taught not to ‘question the mysteries’: ‘When the Prophet speaks,the thinking has been done”.

History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.19, p.408
(Joseph Smith)
In all these affidavits, indictments, it is all of the devil—all corruption. Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

Journal of Discourses, Vol.10, p.109,
Brigham Young, March 8, 1863
Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.


33 posted on 03/12/2013 12:29:14 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Probably because of this:

1 Nephi 14:10 (Book of Mormon)
“And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the
other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great
church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.”

Louis Midgley, Review of Books on the Book of Mormon, p.11
“The membership of the Mormon church,” Smith writes, “is taught not to ‘question the mysteries’: ‘When the Prophet speaks,the thinking has been done”.

History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.19, p.408
(Joseph Smith)
In all these affidavits, indictments, it is all of the devil—all corruption. Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

Journal of Discourses, Vol.10, p.109,
Brigham Young, March 8, 1863
Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.


34 posted on 03/12/2013 12:30:33 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Colofornian; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

Good article for talking to anyone about Christ.


35 posted on 03/12/2013 12:34:44 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

psstttt.... post 19.

You did it.


36 posted on 03/12/2013 12:39:39 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: greyfoxx39

We had a guest Baptist preacher in church tell us that Jesus, at the marriage in Canna, “changed the water into pure unfermented grape juice!”

We tried not to burst out laughing.


37 posted on 03/12/2013 12:42:46 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (CLICK my name. See the murals before they are painted over! POTEET THEATER in OKC!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I think most Mormons don’t know of all the immorality practiced by the church fathers.


38 posted on 03/12/2013 12:51:01 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: WilliamRobert

“Everytime I see something like this posted I know your hate and bigotry is working overtime. Mostly I know what is pisted is bovine excrement and should taken as the complete utter lie it is intented to be. May God have mercy pn your hate filled soul.”


The truth is offensive to the world. There was nothing hateful in the post at all, and exposing Mormonism, or any false religious system, is perfectly acceptable. Only Jesus Christ is supreme, all other gods are false gods. You conclude by telling him “May God have mercy on your hate filled soul.” So do you really think God will have mercy on your soul, when you deny the exclusivity of Jesus Christ and defend religions that make Him out to be a liar?

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


39 posted on 03/12/2013 12:59:53 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Vigilanteman

Oh, that explains their unmathced support of Mitt ROmney...


40 posted on 03/12/2013 1:01:01 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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