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E.J. Dionne -- The best choice for pope? A nun
CMR ^ | February 16, 2013 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 02/16/2013 3:56:06 PM PST by NYer

The media silly season prior to a conclave may have just reached its peak.

The media has been giving all kinds of silly advice to the cardinal-electors and the future pontiff, but E.J. Dionne's idiocy takes the cake.

In giving up the papacy, Pope Benedict XVI was brave and bold. He did the unexpected for the good of the Catholic Church. And when it selects a new pope next month, the College of Cardinals should be equally brave and bold. It is time to elect a nun as the next pontiff.
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A sister as pope could also resolve what might seem a contradiction in Catholic theology. More than Protestants, Catholics are profoundly devoted to the Virgin Mary — and few were as devoted as the late Pope John Paul II, who declared that Mary “sustains the spiritual life of us all, and encourages us, even in suffering, to have faith and hope.” A church for which the Blessed Mother plays such an important role should certainly be comfortable with female leadership.

While support for a stronger role for women in the church tends to be a “liberal” cause, many faithful conservatives also cite the work of nuns as reinforcing their devotion to the church — from the sisters who educated them in parish schools to the work of Mother Teresa’s religious order.
To even critique the writing of (e)EJ(it) is to give it more credibility than it deserves. It is infantile in the extreme.

That this is what passes for legitimate commentary is a paper such as the WaPo is all the evidence one would need to secure an indictment of irrelevancy.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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1 posted on 02/16/2013 3:56:12 PM PST by NYer
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To: NYer

Alzheimer’s.


2 posted on 02/16/2013 3:57:27 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

3 posted on 02/16/2013 3:57:41 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

GTH E.J. Dionne.
His piece is blasphemy.


4 posted on 02/16/2013 4:00:28 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: NYer

A Mullah?


5 posted on 02/16/2013 4:01:35 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: NYer

??

What a moron, Reading a little of this tells me he knows nothing about any of it


6 posted on 02/16/2013 4:03:57 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer

The idiot Dionne has gone over the edge.....again.


7 posted on 02/16/2013 4:04:40 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: NYer

I had it explained to me and this is pretty much what is in the Catechism - when the priest is performing his office, he is not the priest, a man, he is Christ. Two examples are the Consecration when the priest repeats the words of Christ at the last supper. The other is in confession when the priest says Te Absolvo. He is speaking as Christ. The other example is the substance of the Eucharist - bread and wine. It can’t be milk and cookies. It has to be bread and wine. The essence of the male - Christ’s body and blood. Makes perfect sense to me. And my words to those who don’t like it? Go find someone else to play church with and to pretend you’re close to God.


8 posted on 02/16/2013 4:05:37 PM PST by Mercat (Never laugh at live dragons)
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To: NYer
And the commenters over there are as crazy as a whole carload of bedbugs.

None of them are making much sense, but the one thing that's clear is that they hate the Catholic Church. Yelling "child molester" at the top of their lungs with glee, never mind the facts, about that or anything else.

wait . . . FR posters do that too.

9 posted on 02/16/2013 4:05:56 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
Sure thing, EJ
10 posted on 02/16/2013 4:07:02 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: NYer

The best choice for replacing E. J. Dionne — a rational, thinking human being. God knows, he’s nothing more than a chimpanzee.


11 posted on 02/16/2013 4:11:28 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: NYer
I know! I know! Perez Hilton!
12 posted on 02/16/2013 4:13:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: NYer

Just going to ignore the article ‘cause as it’s utter crap as are all this guy’s ramblings.

Anyway...my guess it’ll be Scola of Milan or the Canadian Ouellet.


13 posted on 02/16/2013 4:13:59 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: NYer
Once I saw the name I knew it was worthless drivel.
14 posted on 02/16/2013 4:15:16 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: NYer

Yo Mamma ain’t no Papa


15 posted on 02/16/2013 4:16:57 PM PST by polkajello
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To: NYer

I knew that some lefty would say this. But figured it would be an MSNBC commie. Dionne is just a liberal Catholic.

I guess we see what his real religion is.


16 posted on 02/16/2013 4:21:27 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: NYer

As a serious Lutheran I do not accept the basis of the claim for papal authority. However, E. J. Dionne - who ought not be allowed by his editorial superiors even to undertake such an article - proposes what is sheer nonsense on any number of levels. The amount of thought he devoted to the article could be contained in a very, very small container. He is simply pandering to ill-thought out leftist sensibilities. As such it is shameful and insulting to any thinking Catholic, and thinking Catholics far, far outnumber the thinking Dionne’s of this world. So, for whatever it’s worth, my Catholic neighbors, you ought to be offended by such tripe. I am.


17 posted on 02/16/2013 4:21:48 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

Honestly, he is just deranged and delusional.

Thank God the Holy Spirit is leading Christ’s Church and not this lost soul.


18 posted on 02/16/2013 4:23:07 PM PST by Jvette
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Alzheimer’s.

Advanced syphilis.

19 posted on 02/16/2013 4:24:17 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: NYer

She has to be a Cardinal.


20 posted on 02/16/2013 4:24:17 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: WashingtonSource

“The best choice for replacing E. J. Dionne — a rational, thinking human being. God knows, he’s nothing more than a chimpanzee.”

Insulting chimpanzees will not endear you to this crowd.


21 posted on 02/16/2013 4:24:56 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: NYer

EJ needs a nun to rap his knuckles.


22 posted on 02/16/2013 4:26:20 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: NYer

I like Cardinal Dolan of NYC. Very literate man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W31HUlcn9_s


23 posted on 02/16/2013 4:26:29 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: NYer
I've read plenty of Dionne's columns over the years (my local rag reprints his scribblings), and I've yet to read one where Dionne didn't think Big Government was the best solution to a problem. His faith in the government, like most libs, amounts to sort of a religious belief. In the worlds of the Dionnes, the Dowds, and all the other leftist scribblers, people are helpless pawns at the mercy of ruthless corporations when they're not getting gunned down by toothless NRA members who spit tobacco juice on their lifeless corpses.

I wonder how these people think America ever became great. Or do they think we're great? I would think they don't.

24 posted on 02/16/2013 4:30:36 PM PST by driftless2
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To: NYer

Related (excerpt):

American Nuns Hope For Sister-Friendly New Pope

by Barbie Latza Nadeau Feb 13, 2013 12:04 PM EST

American nuns—fiercely condemned under Pope Benedict for being too “radical”—are looking forward to a fresh start with a new pontiff.

Of all the scandals that have been pinned to Benedict XVI’s papacy, perhaps none has been more divisive than the so-called clampdown on American nuns last April.  Its no wonder, then, that sisters across America are hoping that the next pope gives them a fairer shake.  In an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast, the head of the largest group of American nuns shares what she is looking for in a new leader.

The American nun scandal came to a head last spring when the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued an eight-page doctrinal assessment of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), an umbrella group with more than 1,500 members representing 80 percent of American nuns. In it, they chastised the American sisters for “pushing radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith.” They also accused the sisters of staying silent on a number of the church’s teachings on sensitive topics like euthanasia, women’s ordination, and same-sex marriage. A fierce backlash ensued when Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest and author of several faith-based books, called on the Twitterverse to start tweeting support for nuns under #whatsistersmeantome.  More than a million tweets supporting the sisters followed.  “There is a danger of backlash because of the esteem [in which] so many Catholics hold nuns,” Martin told The Daily Beast at the height of the scandal.  “For many Catholics, sisters are the glue that holds the church together.”

To continue reading visit here:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/13/american-nuns-hope-for-sister-friendly-new-pope.html


25 posted on 02/16/2013 4:31:17 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Not so. Members of the conclave can vote for whomever they desire; in 1958 the Archbishop of Milan got seveal votes. I think the only requirement is that person selected be ordainable (i.e., not a woman).
26 posted on 02/16/2013 4:33:10 PM PST by stormer
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To: NYer

Maybe the liberals are right about gun control. Here is one person who should not be trusted with pointy objects let alone a gun.


27 posted on 02/16/2013 4:34:27 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I’m all for well-read popes. But I also want them to be. . . how do I put this?. . . not too clueless about the realities of the world. Dolan is orthodox, but hasn’t impressed me as “getting it” really.


28 posted on 02/16/2013 4:41:47 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: NYer

GAYNESS has infected the poor girl’s mind.


29 posted on 02/16/2013 4:43:08 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: vladimir998

WHAT is there to GET??? Are you a Roman Catholic??


30 posted on 02/16/2013 4:46:41 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: NYer

Come to think of it, the Apostle’s Creed ... “Our Father” ... implies that only a male can be the “Holy Father.”


31 posted on 02/16/2013 4:47:13 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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Well, I sent my resume to the boys in the College of Cardinals. I think I’m a long shot...kind of a dark horse. I have a better chance for a second interview than almost any nun.


32 posted on 02/16/2013 4:47:13 PM PST by stevem
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To: Belteshazzar

As a Lutheran, you might like this accurate depiction of the typical liberal reporter-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87vo2jkmJUg


33 posted on 02/16/2013 4:51:56 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: EQAndyBuzz

So true. Warning accepted.


34 posted on 02/16/2013 5:00:57 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: vladimir998

Well I admit I haven’t been following him too closely but I like the fact that he has a big mouth. Benedict was like a zombie, I can’t remember the last time I heard that guy talk. With all the attacks Christians have to put up with today, I want somebody who is going to open their yap.


35 posted on 02/16/2013 5:02:45 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: AnAmericanMother
You do realize FR's management team is predominantly Roman Catholic ~ as are the biggest supporters, and the best posters (and if they are not Catholic they are at least Christian or Jewish traditionalists).

FR is simply not typified with folks like the spawn of the antichrist over at DU, Washington Post, and all the other Farleftwingtard extremists.

36 posted on 02/16/2013 5:08:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: stormer

So, when was the last time a non-Cardinal became a Pope? Never?


37 posted on 02/16/2013 5:14:02 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Those leftists yelling “child molester” will be the first to support legalizing pedophilia I bet


38 posted on 02/16/2013 5:16:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: BunnySlippers

Pope Alexander was a priest for one day and they made him pope. Very interesting guy ~ rather like a combination arbitrage manager, mafia don and guerrilla fighter who could also sail a ship, read, write, and more or less start sticking a small country together.


39 posted on 02/16/2013 5:18:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: onyx

Yes it is. Blasphemy!


40 posted on 02/16/2013 5:18:50 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Belteshazzar

I am offended by all of these charlatans who live lives that could hardly survive the scrutiny of the humblest fellow Catholic, having the chutzpah to lecture the faithful on selection of the Pope.


41 posted on 02/16/2013 5:30:53 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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There’s already been a female Pope - Olimpia Maidalchini, sister-in-law to Pope Innocent X, also known as “La Papessa”.

She basically became the papal gatekeeper, who controlled access to the Pope - kind of like how Valerie Jarrett controls a certain Kenyan Usurper.


42 posted on 02/16/2013 5:33:13 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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Yeah, the group that hasn’t yet accepted civil divorce and remarriage along with birth control is going to jump right into ‘female Popes’. Not even priestesses, right into Popesses. OK.

Freegards, thanks for all the pings on FR


43 posted on 02/16/2013 5:33:41 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: muawiyah

There have been eight Popes and Antipopes named Alexander.
Pope Alexander I (c. 106 – c. 115)
Pope Alexander II (1061–1073)
Pope Alexander III (1159–1181)
Pope Alexander IV (1254–1261)
Antipope Alexander V (1409–1410) (Considered to be an Antipope; however, the next Pope Alexander took the name Alexander VI due to confusion over Alexander V’s status at the time.)
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503)
Pope Alexander VII (1655–1667)
Pope Alexander VIII (1689–1691)


44 posted on 02/16/2013 5:33:47 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: NYer

Preferably transgendered, of course.


45 posted on 02/16/2013 5:34:18 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Jyotishi

Pope Benedict was right on in condemning the activities of many American nuns. They are subversive and have become destroyers of the faith. May God have mercy on them for the destruction they have wrought.


46 posted on 02/16/2013 5:37:19 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: NYer

Creepy.


47 posted on 02/16/2013 5:45:12 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: BunnySlippers

There have been 6, the last being Urban VI who was Pope from 1378 until 1389. If that seem distant, consider that the last Pope to resign did so in 1415.


48 posted on 02/16/2013 5:48:14 PM PST by stormer
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To: NYer

I am surprised he didn’t nominate Whoopi Goldberg, who played a nun in a movie. Think of the “firsts” in that one......


49 posted on 02/16/2013 5:49:06 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("What thou lovest well , remains. The rest is dross"---Ezra pound)
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To: NYer
A church for which the Blessed Mother plays such an important role should certainly be comfortable with female leadership.

What an annoying non-sequiter.

Rather than trying to ruin the Catholic church, why don't liberals just start their own religion made in their own image? They could call it Unitarianism or something and it could be just as indistinguishable from pop culture as they want it to be.

50 posted on 02/16/2013 5:49:58 PM PST by Yardstick
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