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Notre Dame Announces Gay, ‘Allies’ Student Group
The Cardinal Newman Society ^ | 12/5/12 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 12/06/2012 8:27:14 AM PST by marshmallow

In what the University of Notre Dame’s student newspaper is calling “a historic decision,” the University announced plans for a University- recognized homosexual student organization as well as a full-time student development staff position focused on LGBTQ issues.

The announcement was made as the result of a long review of the University’s policies. According to the student newspaper, Fr. John Jenkins, the president of the university, said that the plan “grows out of our mission as a Catholic university” and is “directed by that fundamental mission in a profound way.”

But although the plan describes the student organization as acting consistent with Catholic teaching, Fr. Jenkins seemed to indicate some doubt about how closely it will be regulated:

Jenkins said the organization’s roots in Church teaching had a broad practical impact, but these roots are not meant to serve as a basis for limitations the University could theoretically impose on the group. “It’s a rich teaching about the role of sexuality, about intimacy, about human relations, about responsibilities to the community, about relationships to the Church,” Jenkins said. “To put this in a ‘Well you can do this, you can’t do that,’ is to distort the issue.”

Moreover, at least one Vatican official has expressed reservations about a Catholic college organizing any student activity centered on homosexuality. In 1992 Cardinal Pio Laghi, then-Prefect of the Congregation for Catholic Education, opposed a homosexual club at Seattle University: “At a Catholic university, support can be given only to Catholic teaching on homosexuality and Catholic pastoral practice to help homosexual persons morally, ascetically, and spiritually . . . The university’s responsibilities towards homosexual persons, doctrinally and pastorally, should find their expression in courses in Catholic theology.”

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.cardinalnewmansociety.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholiccolleges; highereducation; homosexualagenda; notredame

1 posted on 12/06/2012 8:27:21 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
So the “L” is now listed in front of the G in “LGBTQ”? Was a focus group study performed? And it is about time the Q's get recognized, sometimes they are forgotten and likely discriminated against in the LGBT world; now, they have inclusion...until the next letter.
2 posted on 12/06/2012 8:32:02 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: marshmallow

imho, Notre Dame is no more a Catholic College than I am a lunar lander pilot.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 8:32:48 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marshmallow

Catholic values. In politics, in education, in life.

(Said with all due respect to Catholic FReepers.)


4 posted on 12/06/2012 8:33:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: marshmallow

Who cares about gay people. The fact that babies are being murdered every day seems to be about five orders of magnitude more important of a social issue.


5 posted on 12/06/2012 8:35:12 AM PST by Flightdeck (My four children have been robbed)
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To: marshmallow

Fr Jenkins talks a lot but says virtually nothing - he makes grandios statements but does not give voice to truth.

Let me ask the simplest of questions is homosexuality and the homosexual act a sin or not? If the “club” was formed on the basis of understanding that it is indeed a sin then the “club” could be a help through the understanding of truth and pure doctrine.

I doubt that it is rather it is there to lessen the sin and promote the culture!

Mel


6 posted on 12/06/2012 8:36:40 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: marshmallow

Would they sanction a heterosexual student group?


7 posted on 12/06/2012 8:39:34 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: marshmallow

There simply isn’t a cornerstone for morality in this country any more. It is amazing seemingly intelligent people bend over backwards to elevate a perverse sexual desire. To be fair, since that is what liberals are all about, shouldn’t there be student groups for pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiallity, etc.


8 posted on 12/06/2012 8:40:17 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist

Roll Tide!


9 posted on 12/06/2012 8:44:46 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: marshmallow

Notre Dame keeps using the word “Catholic”.

I do not thin’ it means what they thin’ it means.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 8:46:21 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: marshmallow

An alleged Christian institution plowing open a road to hell. Wonderful.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 8:47:01 AM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Romney did in 2012)
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To: Yogafist

The country has thrown out the God of Israel and chosen the liberals, Pied Pipers on the road to Hell. Not all the country of course, but about half.


12 posted on 12/06/2012 8:55:22 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: marshmallow
Actually, I think they're taunting the Pope because they come out with something like this right after anything he does to try and get things back on the right track.

On the 4th Benedict puts out, “The Service of Charity” and here we have an little announcement from ND with far more of a press release than it deserves. I think they want a fight over whether or not they can call themselves Catholic and are trying to egg it on.

13 posted on 12/06/2012 8:59:55 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: massgopguy

Amen bro!!! This Catholic will be rooting for ‘Bama to destroy the arrogant CINOs Domers big time.


14 posted on 12/06/2012 9:01:50 AM PST by C19fan
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To: marshmallow

Liberal dictionary

Historic: anything they agree with

Controversial: anything they don’t


15 posted on 12/06/2012 9:02:27 AM PST by relictele
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To: ConservativeStatement

Has anyone asked the Bs if they want to be lumped in with the Qs? What about the Ts? What if the Ts like the Ls but not the Gs?


16 posted on 12/06/2012 9:05:16 AM PST by relictele
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To: marshmallow
Jenkins is the same putz who gave Obama an honorary degree. This is no surprise.
17 posted on 12/06/2012 9:12:37 AM PST by utahagen
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To: marshmallow

They lost me when they honored Obozo and had the pro-lifers arrested when he spoke there.


18 posted on 12/06/2012 9:14:16 AM PST by Marathoner 244
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To: marshmallow

Roll Tide!


19 posted on 12/06/2012 9:16:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: marshmallow
"You see those damn liberals on that hill?...Send them to hell!"
20 posted on 12/06/2012 9:22:44 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Smokin' Joe; tx_eggman
imho, Notre Dame is no more a Catholic College than I am a lunar lander pilot.
21 posted on 12/06/2012 9:24:13 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: marshmallow

I leave there almost 25 years ago, and this is what happens. First the Obama invitation, now this. NOT ONE F’ING DIME ND, NOT ONE DIME!!!!!!!!

Ronnie is turning over in his grave......


22 posted on 12/06/2012 9:28:40 AM PST by DickBrannigan (When did logic become reversed, and right became wrong, and wrong became right?)
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To: melsec

“If the ‘club’ was formed on the basis of understanding that it is indeed a sin then the ‘club’ could be a help through the understanding of truth and pure doctrine.”

That’s what I was thinking. If the club takes after the Catholic group Courage and helps Catholics lead chaste lives in obedience to church teachings, maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad thing. I guess I still hope Notre Dame wins the national championship in football but when they award Obama and do things like this, my liking of their football tradition continues to wane.


23 posted on 12/06/2012 9:35:06 AM PST by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: marshmallow

http://tinyurl.com/southbendscandal


24 posted on 12/06/2012 9:36:04 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: marshmallow

Catholic fags . . what next? No wonder Alabama if going to kick their butt!


25 posted on 12/06/2012 9:45:48 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: marshmallow

‘Well you can do this, you can’t do that,’ is to distort the issue.”

Yeah, those pesky Commandments.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 9:46:21 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Arthur McGowan

Roll Tide


27 posted on 12/06/2012 9:46:23 AM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Da Coyote

Notre Dame keeps using the word “Catholic”.

Yes and TCU rarely uses the word “Christian” to describe their university.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 9:52:13 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: C19fan

I think Bama will defeat ND as well....


29 posted on 12/06/2012 10:12:17 AM PST by ohioman
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To: MDLION

I pray and hope I am wrong - better me be wrong than young people fall prey to this evil!


30 posted on 12/06/2012 10:15:01 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: marshmallow

All I can say is “Roll Tide!!”


31 posted on 12/06/2012 10:19:25 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: marshmallow

Wonder if ND will become the next penn state -
all crazed over football and turning a blind eye to
the evil that happens under their noses.

I was so thankful my child turned down the offer to attend there...hypocrites, all of ‘em.


32 posted on 12/06/2012 12:51:04 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: Flightdeck
Sexual disorder matters just as much as abortion, especially if you have any love in your heart at all for sexually confused, directionless, depressed, and exploited kids. Paul Goodman had a phrase for it --- "growing up absud" --- though he didn't mean it the way I do.

Immortal souls are at risk in either case. That's the most important thing of all.

33 posted on 12/06/2012 2:46:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: relictele
A few years ago, a libtard was trying to explain T's to me in saying that some people are confused. I came up with the term “trans-ethnic” as I am confused by my ethnicity and therefore demand equal opportunities of all disenfranchised since I could be one or two or three or... well, I dunno.
34 posted on 12/06/2012 4:08:25 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Sexual disorder matters just as much as abortion”

No it doesn’t. You’re worried about immortal souls being “at risk”, when babies are being butchered. Not even remotely close.


35 posted on 12/06/2012 4:16:35 PM PST by Flightdeck (My four children have been robbed)
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To: marshmallow

if the goal of life is to know love and serve God, then shouldn’t the goal of this club be to help people follow God’s rules to become saints, not to foster a club that encourages sin?


36 posted on 12/06/2012 5:56:10 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: marshmallow
Now Bama gonna really stomp their fairy fannies!
37 posted on 12/06/2012 5:59:18 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: Flightdeck
I'm confused. I guess I'm not following you. Are bodies more important than souls?

Since abortion and sodomy are both hell-bent acts that --- unless one repents --- render one fit for the firepit, surely they are in the same league.

Sodomy has the potential to entrap and twist just as many souls; possibly more. Look how they're actively promoting perversions in the schools, from the middle schools to so-called Catholic Universities like ND and beyond:

Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

38 posted on 12/07/2012 7:47:06 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: Flightdeck
“Sexual disorder matters just as much as abortion”

No it doesn’t. You’re worried about immortal souls being “at risk”, when babies are being butchered. Not even remotely close.

I am sure that ALL except maybe you would agree that choosing to engage in homosexual sex is as much a sin as choosing to murder an innocents is. BOTH are condemned by God and BOTH lead to external damnation.

You need to get control of yourself before you are banned from FR for promoting the homosexual agenda with your sophistry and moral relative arguments.

Your moral relative argumentation method is flawed. Homosexual sex is never good regardless what bad you compare and contrast the depraved activity with.

39 posted on 12/16/2012 6:40:55 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm confused. I guess I'm not following you...

Do not be confused. You would have to be in favor of promoting the disordered homosexual agenda to follow such absurd arguments as the one presented in response to the truth you posted.

40 posted on 12/16/2012 6:48:40 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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