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To: NYer; ebb tide; Rashputin; narses
Where Peter is, THERE is the Church.

As much as I disagree with the disingenuous approach, I will credit the SPPX with recognizing the first mark of the true church. To the above, we can add: Where there are bishops under the pope, there is the Church, even if one is dealing with a progressivist bishop. Remember, the 12 Apostles included a renegade who turned traitor.

It is one thing to recognize. It is quite another to separate from the Church on a spectacular basis. At that point, it isn't about the theology, it is about the individual ego.

It has been well pointed out upstream that if individuals were more concerned about the Church, they'd stay in it and contest the goings-on, rather than pull out and pout.

Again, I ask what separates Lefebvre from Luther, Zwingli and Calvin? They thought that they were the true Catholics...

43 posted on 07/21/2012 10:00:54 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

I agree wholeheartedly. For that reason, I posted the comment. We’re on the same track ;-)


44 posted on 07/21/2012 11:56:13 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: MarkBsnr
Again, I ask what separates Lefebvre from Luther, Zwingli and Calvin?
Let' see, did Luther reject dogmatic teachings of the Church? Did he reject any of the Sacraments? Did Calvin? Zwingli? Well, yes. They all did. And how many of the Sacraments or dogmas of the Church have the SSPX rejected? Oh, none? Maybe there is a difference?
45 posted on 07/21/2012 1:36:49 PM PDT by narses
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