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To: .45 Long Colt

you wrote:

“You are looking at one act and presuming faith in Christ, but was she trusting in her good work or was she truly trusting in Christ? You do not know and neither do I.”

Actually I do know since no one has ever voiced what you are claiming. If she had faith in Christ - and her husband and family attest to that - and she had it FIRST, that is, long before the baby came along, then there is no reason for your presumption. It’s just that simple.

“And apparently you did not read carefully. What I was saying was a lie was the idea that dying for her child secured salvation.”

And exactly who claimed “dying for her child secured salvation” before you started posting against that idea in post #3? Certainly the answer is NO ONE. Not even jagusafr was claiming that and you were posting to him!!!

“I can say that with absolute certainty on the basis of Scripture because it is clear that salvation is by grace through faith AND NOT OF WORKS lest anyone should boast. Salvation cannot be earned. It is a gift of God.”

And no one here disagrees with that. You need to smarten up.


38 posted on 07/13/2012 8:21:23 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Um, one of the posts before mine the person said something about her enjoying eternal life. In other words he presumed she was saved. That’s what I was responding to. I see the same type presumption everytime someone dies. I always hope they are correct in their presumption, just as I do in this instance. Based on the authority of Scripture, I can say with certainty that there is nothing WE CAN DO, even dying for a child, to secure salvation.

“So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.” (Romans 9:16)

The NIV says it this way:

“It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.” (Romans 9:16)


41 posted on 07/13/2012 8:49:50 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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