Posted on 07/13/2012 2:34:37 PM PDT by NYer
Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord, and may perpetual light shine upon her. May she rest in peace.
Prayers for Ignacio and Barbarita.
The word, “hero”, is not too strong. Enjoy life eternal, Mama Barbara.
“Enjoy life eternal, Mama Barbara.”
She did a wonderful and brave thing and she deserves honor, but let’s hope she placed her trust in Christ and Him alone. Dying to save her child contributed nothing toward her eternal salvation.
A saint in every sense of the word.
True heroism. Lovely woman.
Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord. May perpetual light shine upon her.
A saint from an earthly perspective sure, but salvation cannot be earned by sacrificing yourself for a baby or 10,000 babies. Scripture makes it crystal clear that salvation is by grace through faith and not of works.
Ephesians 2:8-9
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
What a wonderful witness to faith, hope, and love.
Jesus says "Whatever you did to the least of my brothers, you did it to Me." We are judged and our eternal destiny is determined in accordance with our works.
Scripture says a whole lot of things ...
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. -- John 15:13
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. -- 1 Pt 4:8
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. -- 1 Tm 2:15
Why do you ignore those verses in order to harangue us about how she couldn't be saved except by grace through faith, both of which -- grace and faith -- she certainly had, since she was a believing Catholic?
I ignore those verses because those verses say nothing about how God justifies a human soul. However, the two verses I quoted do.
My purpose wasn’t to harangue anyone. As I said, I respect what she did and find her death both heroic and extremely sad, but no one should believe her death secured her eternal salvation.
Salvation cannot be rendered down to a single verse or bumper sticker, it must be taken as a whole, each verse in the context of all others. Nor is Salvation the same for each of us. God ask us all to do what we can do and for those to whom much is given more is expected. Scripture tells us than there are many things that save us;
-God (2 Timothy 1:8-9),
-Jesus (Matthew 1:21, 1 Timothy 1:15),
-The Holy Spirit (John 3:5, Titus 3:5, 2 Thessalonians 2:13),
-Grace (Ephesians 2:8),
-The Blood of Christ (Romans 5:9), Jesus Name (Acts 4:12), Jesus Life (Romans 5:10),
-The Gospel (Romans 1:16, 1 Corinthians 1:18, 15:1-2; 2 Thessalonians 2:13),
-The Implanted Word (James 1:21),
-Faith (Acts 16:31, Romans 1:16, 10:9-10, 1 Peter 1:9),
-Obedience (Matthew 7:21, Hebrews 5:9, 1 Peter 1:21), Works (Philippians 2:12, James 2:24),
-Loving God and others (John 14:21-24),
-Confession of Faith (Romans 10:9-10),
-Repentance (2 Corinthians 7:10),
-Baptism (Mark 16:16, 1 Peter 3:21, Acts 2:38, 22:16),
-Doctrine (1 Timothy 4:16),
-Evangelization (Romans 10:13-14, 11:14; 1 Corinthians 1:21, 7:16, 9:22; James 5:20).
Peace be with you
“We are judged and our eternal destiny is determined in accordance with our works.”
You believe that at your own peril because that’s not what Scripture says.
Scripture says, “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20)
And Romans 3:28 says, “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”
“Nor is Salvation the same for each of us.”
Salvation is precisely the same for every man who has ever walked the planet. Those who lived during the Old Testament days looked forward to the cross and we look backwards. Regardless of the era, all the work for salvation was done by Him and through Him.
Hmm. Would killing her child to try to save herself have worked against her eternal salvation?
I don’t think a true Christian would abort her child to save herself, but Christ died for all of the sins of His sheep, including abortion.
She had grace to do what she did. She was also graceful in her living. You could learn from her.
RIP.
**I ignore those verses because those verses say nothing about how God justifies a human soul. **
And you know God’s mind now?
The why did Christ give us the Beatitudes to follow from th Sermon on the Mount?
Happiness: Blessed are Those who Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness (Part 3)
Happiness: The first three Beatitudes (Part 2)
Happiness: Ancient and Modern Concepts of Happines (Part 1)
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted for Righteousness Sake
Learning the beatitudes during Lent -- use your Rosary to learn the Beatitutdes [Catholic Caucus]
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Peacemakers [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Pure in Heart
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Merciful
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness
The Beatitudes: Blessed are the Meek
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Mourn
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Poor in Spirit
The Beatitudes
Lists Every Catholic Should be Familiar With: The 8 Beatitudes
The Beatitudes: Generosity and Happiness
Beatitudes by Bishop Fulton Sheen
Happiness of Sacrifice
The Danger of Spiritual Sloth [Reflection on The Beatitudes]
Satan's version of the sermon on the mount [Difficult read]
The Eight Beatitudes
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