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Catholic journalist dies after delaying cancer treatments for unborn baby
Life Site News ^ | July 13, 2012 | JOHN JALSEVAC

Posted on 07/13/2012 2:34:37 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/13/2012 2:34:44 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Barbara with her daughter Barbarita

Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord, and may perpetual light shine upon her. May she rest in peace.

Prayers for Ignacio and Barbarita.

2 posted on 07/13/2012 2:36:52 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

The word, “hero”, is not too strong. Enjoy life eternal, Mama Barbara.


3 posted on 07/13/2012 2:44:25 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: jagusafr

“Enjoy life eternal, Mama Barbara.”

She did a wonderful and brave thing and she deserves honor, but let’s hope she placed her trust in Christ and Him alone. Dying to save her child contributed nothing toward her eternal salvation.


4 posted on 07/13/2012 2:51:49 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

A saint in every sense of the word.


5 posted on 07/13/2012 2:56:49 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer

True heroism. Lovely woman.

Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord. May perpetual light shine upon her.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 2:57:32 PM PDT by Melian ("Where will wants not, a way opens.")
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To: NKP_Vet

A saint from an earthly perspective sure, but salvation cannot be earned by sacrificing yourself for a baby or 10,000 babies. Scripture makes it crystal clear that salvation is by grace through faith and not of works.

Ephesians 2:8-9
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”


7 posted on 07/13/2012 3:05:34 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: NYer

What a wonderful witness to faith, hope, and love.


8 posted on 07/13/2012 3:13:42 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: .45 Long Colt
'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.'
Matthew 25:40

Jesus says "Whatever you did to the least of my brothers, you did it to Me." We are judged and our eternal destiny is determined in accordance with our works.

9 posted on 07/13/2012 3:20:18 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: .45 Long Colt
Scripture makes it crystal clear

Scripture says a whole lot of things ...

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. -- John 15:13

And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. -- 1 Pt 4:8

Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. -- 1 Tm 2:15

Why do you ignore those verses in order to harangue us about how she couldn't be saved except by grace through faith, both of which -- grace and faith -- she certainly had, since she was a believing Catholic?

10 posted on 07/13/2012 3:25:32 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

I ignore those verses because those verses say nothing about how God justifies a human soul. However, the two verses I quoted do.

My purpose wasn’t to harangue anyone. As I said, I respect what she did and find her death both heroic and extremely sad, but no one should believe her death secured her eternal salvation.


11 posted on 07/13/2012 3:35:53 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt
"Scripture makes it crystal clear that salvation is by grace through faith and not of works."

Salvation cannot be rendered down to a single verse or bumper sticker, it must be taken as a whole, each verse in the context of all others. Nor is Salvation the same for each of us. God ask us all to do what we can do and for those to whom much is given more is expected. Scripture tells us than there are many things that save us;

-God (2 Timothy 1:8-9),
-Jesus (Matthew 1:21, 1 Timothy 1:15),
-The Holy Spirit (John 3:5, Titus 3:5, 2 Thessalonians 2:13),
-Grace (Ephesians 2:8),
-The Blood of Christ (Romans 5:9), Jesus’ Name (Acts 4:12), Jesus’ Life (Romans 5:10),
-The Gospel (Romans 1:16, 1 Corinthians 1:18, 15:1-2; 2 Thessalonians 2:13),
-The Implanted Word (James 1:21),
-Faith (Acts 16:31, Romans 1:16, 10:9-10, 1 Peter 1:9),
-Obedience (Matthew 7:21, Hebrews 5:9, 1 Peter 1:21), Works (Philippians 2:12, James 2:24),
-Loving God and others (John 14:21-24),
-Confession of Faith (Romans 10:9-10),
-Repentance (2 Corinthians 7:10),
-Baptism (Mark 16:16, 1 Peter 3:21, Acts 2:38, 22:16),
-Doctrine (1 Timothy 4:16),
-Evangelization (Romans 10:13-14, 11:14; 1 Corinthians 1:21, 7:16, 9:22; James 5:20).

Peace be with you

12 posted on 07/13/2012 3:39:49 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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“We are judged and our eternal destiny is determined in accordance with our works.”

You believe that at your own peril because that’s not what Scripture says.

Scripture says, “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” (Romans 3:20)

And Romans 3:28 says, “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”


13 posted on 07/13/2012 3:40:57 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Natural Law

“Nor is Salvation the same for each of us.”

Salvation is precisely the same for every man who has ever walked the planet. Those who lived during the Old Testament days looked forward to the cross and we look backwards. Regardless of the era, all the work for salvation was done by Him and through Him.


14 posted on 07/13/2012 3:51:01 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt
Dying to save her child contributed nothing toward her eternal salvation.

Hmm. Would killing her child to try to save herself have worked against her eternal salvation?

15 posted on 07/13/2012 4:40:25 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

I don’t think a true Christian would abort her child to save herself, but Christ died for all of the sins of His sheep, including abortion.


16 posted on 07/13/2012 4:57:49 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

She had grace to do what she did. She was also graceful in her living. You could learn from her.


17 posted on 07/13/2012 6:19:48 PM PDT by vladimir998
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RIP.


18 posted on 07/13/2012 6:22:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: .45 Long Colt

**I ignore those verses because those verses say nothing about how God justifies a human soul. **

And you know God’s mind now?


19 posted on 07/13/2012 6:25:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: .45 Long Colt
**And Romans 3:28 says, “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”**

The why did Christ give us the Beatitudes to follow from th Sermon on the Mount?

Happiness: Blessed are Those who Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness (Part 3)
Happiness: The first three Beatitudes (Part 2)
Happiness: Ancient and Modern Concepts of Happines (Part 1)
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted for Righteousness’ Sake
Learning the beatitudes during Lent -- use your Rosary to learn the Beatitutdes [Catholic Caucus]
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Peacemakers [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Pure in Heart
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Merciful
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness
The Beatitudes: Blessed are the Meek

The Beatitudes: Blessed Are Those Who Mourn
The Beatitudes: Blessed Are the Poor in Spirit
The Beatitudes
Lists Every Catholic Should be Familiar With: The 8 Beatitudes
The Beatitudes: Generosity and Happiness
Beatitudes by Bishop Fulton Sheen
Happiness of Sacrifice
The Danger of Spiritual Sloth [Reflection on The Beatitudes]
Satan's version of the sermon on the mount [Difficult read]
The Eight Beatitudes

20 posted on 07/13/2012 6:27:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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