Skip to comments.Book Review: 100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura
Posted on 07/03/2012 9:31:36 AM PDT by Te骹ilo
Another nail in the coffin of the foundational Protestant dogma
Sola scriptura is dead, or at least is undead, a zombie still stalking the darkened hallways of Protestantism. Many well-meaning Protestant Christians dont see the zombie-dogma for what it is; instead, they choose to see it as a being of light. My friend Dave Armstrong has returned to blow the old decrepit sola scriptura monsters one at a time in his latest work, 100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura.
Lets recall the definition of the sola scriptura dogma yes, it is a dogma as understood by Norman Geisler, a recognized Protestant authority Dave quotes in his work:
By sola scriptura orthodox Protestants mean that Scripture alone is the primary and absolute source of authority, the final court of appeal, for all doctrine and practice (faith and morals) (p.16)Geisler, and other authorities Dave quotes, further explain that other authorities exist, but that these are of secondary importance. Geisler also defends what he calls the perspicuity of Holy Writ, which means that anyone can understand the basic truths of Scripture: the plain things are the main things and the main things are the plain things, Geisler states. (p.17). As a true analyst, Dave separated the sola scriptura dogma into its constituents claims, found out its contents, examined its individual parts, and studied the structure of sola scriptura as whole. He found them defective and insufficient to expound and explain the full spectrum of Christian claims.
Dave kills the sola scriptura zombie by selecting 100 verses from Scripture contradicting this central Protestant claim. I guess he selected 100 verses because the number 100 gives the reader a sense of exhaustive answer and completion, not because there are only 100 verses that should make all sincere Protestant Christian at least uncomfortable with the teaching. In fact, Dave is the author of another related work, 501 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura: Is the Bible the Only Infallible Authority?, which is useful if you need another 401 arguments to kill the sola scriptura zombie dead.
100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura. is a distillation of the 501 Biblical Arguments
in a more manageable, less overwhelming fashion for the beginning reader. Its 133 pages in length and divided into two parts. In Part 1 Dave discusses the binding authority of Tradition, as substantiated in Scripture, and in Part 2 he discusses the binding authority of the Church, again from Scripture. The result must be uncontestable to the sincere Protestant Christian as well as eye opening to the full range of deeds and wonders the Incarnation of the Word of God brought to history.Will the sola scriptura zombie really die after Daves work? This is a senseless question because the zombie is already dead. Its kept ambulating by strings pulled from the most diehard of its followers. Those strings must be cut by the individual, sincere Protestant Christian himself. Dave Armstrongs work, 100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura. not only blows the zombie of sola scriptura away, he also provides the truth-searcher with the scissors to cut off the strings.
I match everything against scripture. If someone says something that goes against scripture, then he is a false prophet. If it isn’t scripture, I take it with a grain of salt as coming from a man.
My church has always tought me, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Read my bible and don’t count on a man to guide me.
Far too much dogma has com from the rcc to treat it as a credible source for salvation. Praying too anyone but God is idol worship. There is no biblical reference to purgatory. It was a money making scheme.
When you are dead, that’s it you can’t skirt the line and count on purgatory too still get you in. purgatory is the rcc’s biggest sin.
“Now what about you? Whos your authority? How do you know? Are you your own infallible pope?”
I trust my understanding of Scripture over the opinions of some Zyklon B sales rep or a member of the Hitler Youth. With confidence I guarantee you I have spent more time studying the Bible than the last five popes combined. Sometime you ought to look up a former priest, even those with a high level of education, and ask him how much time he spent being taught the Bible. His answer will shock you. My teens have spent more time in pure bible study than many priests.
And yes, there have been evil popes. Being pope does not make you infallible. All humans, with the exception of Christ and His Holy Mother of course, are sinful.
The fact that Catholic human leaders have behaved like humans is hardly unbelievable. It would be far more unbelievable to claim that being a clergyman makes you sinless.
Then Christianity crumbles from failure of its own structure.
Whatever the limits of the Truth, it must be self-consistent within; by definition and its own teaching, anything not consistent with the Truth isn't.
Tradition has proven itself inconsistent too often to be presumed correct from mere declaratory inclusion. That leaves Scripture as the only well-delineated bastion of Truth, whether or additional truth is contained therein. If inconsistencies - real ones, not perceived as such by sinful flawed minds - are found, they must be excised. The exercise has left us with the book we have; should more be removed, we have but dust left.
Then why aren’t you a muslim or a mormon?
Come to think of it, Europe is being overrun with Muslims while the protestants there have all but disappeared. The USA is about to switch its president from a former muslim to a current mormon.
And you going after 500 year old doctrine from Calvinists who are in a distinct minority in the USA. Who agree with Romans on most political issues and most of the big theological questions like unitarianism vs trinitarianism. Who recite like Romans the Nicean creed.
Presumably you wouldn’t dare attack Jews who hold to their own tradition and their own opinion about the nature of Jesus—primarily because they don’t believe in the NT.
But even setting the Jews aside don’t you have better fish to fry? Certainly attacking protestants, evangelicals and calvinists won’t increase your standing. It just makes you look weak because everyone but everyone knows the threats from outside Christianity in general and the Roman church in particular—especially the threats posed by muslims & atheists externally and arians internally—are far more severe than those posed by protestants.
Then how do you explains relics?
Or, it may be a sign of humor-deprivation on the part of some readers.
Poeple may follow what ever prophet/vicar/synod/temple etc but as for myself I will try to follow Testament of Jesus Christ.
” Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to Gods holy people “ Jude
We’re not claiming anything not in scripture is wrong. That’s absurd.
We’re claiming scripture is true, and defines truth.
We’re also observing that just because something declares itself true doesn’t make it so.
We’re also observing that something which contradicts scripture is, by definition, false.
The Apostolic letters contain a written record of Apostolic tradition directly from the source.
If something contradicts scripture, it is clearly against Apostolic tradition.
If something isn't contained in scripture, it's value is indeterminate.
I'll stick with the promises and commands of definitive Apostolic tradition, rather then hearsay, inspiration, or revelation of dubious value.
Your assumption is that Dave's book is in fact, "evil" when it isn't. It's a good book, well-reasoned, and well-researched, authored by a very humble, unassuming man.
You won't read it because you are afraid of it.
Agreed. That’s a key, and oft overlooked, point. If “Purgatory” is true, then you can just chuck the whole book, crucifixion, etc. because Heaven is just a rinse cycle away.
Mary was a sinner saved by grace, just like me.
Sola Scriptura? Scripture Alone?
Which by the way, isn't contained in the Bible.
Fine by me! Go back to read Jack Chick crap. Happy reading.
I’ve seen too many Protestant-bashing posts here on FR which issue comparable insults in earnest.
I’d have taken the “zombie” comment as humor, but for the frequency of its use in just a few introductory paragraphs. A slap on the back may be friendly; a slap on the back, face, chest, rear, shins, etc. in the space of a few breaths is not.
I don’t think Jack Chick wrote any part of Scripture.
You’re gonna have to help me out here.
Where in scripture does it say unwritten Apostolic teaching is subordinate to written teaching?
Show me a promise or show me a command.
He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
Nothing about writing there.
Way to miss the point.
Scripture is sufficient and complete. There is not more waiting to be revealed.
If something contradicts scripture, it is wrong.
If something adheres with scripture, it is right.
If something neither contradicts nor adheres to scripture, it ... just is.
To reject Sola Scriptura is to set the Bible aside, give God with a puzzled look, and say “ok...now what?”
BTW: if you _do_ wish to open things up to the notion of post-scriptural revelation, best you adhere to the enumerated rules for identifying and disposing of false prophets. ...which, methinks, you don’t.
Friend, in all seriousness, your soul is in danger. Real danger. You have placed your trust in a false religion. I know there is nothing I can say to change your mind, so endless debate is pointless. I urge you to beg the Lord to reveal Himself to you. Beg Him to lead you to the true gospel that saves. Beg Him to open your eyes so that you might be distinguish truth from error.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9)
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” (Romans 10:4)
There is no righteousness to be obtained in law-keeping works. The righteousness necessary for eternal life (absolute perfection) is found in but one place—and that’s in Jesus Christ.
Well, that ain't scriptural.
Ok, I get it. You are your own pope.
BTW — Godwin’s Law. You lose.
The 2nd Commandment (Thou shalt not worship idols) was REMOVED from the Catholic "version" of the ten commandments, and the 10th split into two to get the total number back up to 10.
Here is an idol in the Basilica itself, that has been worshiped so much the bronze toes are worn smooth.
On this ancient bronze statue, St. Peter has his right toes worn down by centuries of pilgrims who traditionally kiss and touch the foot.
Here is the Christian version of the first two commandments:
And God spoke all these words, saying: I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
1. You shall have no other gods before me.
2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
10.Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Here are 1,2, 9 and 10 Catholic version:
1.I am the LORD thy God. Thou shalt have no strange gods before Me.
2. (Actually 3) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain.
9.Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife.(The Tenth Commandment is split into two to get back to Ten Commandments.)
10.Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods.
I don’t need a pope because I have the Holy Spirit.
That was a lot of words just to say “I got nothing”.
Veneration. It can be explained by those Protestants I have seen openly weeping at The Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, The Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, and the site of Jesus' trial and scourging at the location believed to be Pilate's Praetorium in Jerusalem.
Peace be with you
You have no assurance of that. That is purely a sentiment on your part. You are risking your eternal salvation on a hunch?
Sinners, perhaps but .... evil? Just so we're on the same page, can you provide some names?
Whatever. Someone else mentioned Hitler youth, so I followed up with a Zyklon B comment just trying to be funny. I reject popery on biblical and historical grounds, not because of any particular misdeeds of your popes.
This says that the church has authority. But, from whose mouth does this permission come to us? First, from Matthew, an Apostle, and Matthew was recounting the words of Jesus.
So, scripture tells us the Church has Divine Authority when acting as the church of the Resurrected Lord.
Is that really unusual and anti-scriptural?
The Book of Revelations is not in my Bible. shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants,
the things which must soon take place; and He sent
and communicated it by His angel
to His bond-servant John,
I take it you reject the Trinity.
That doesn't mean anybody is worshiping Roosevelt's dog ~ at least not anymore. Used to be the Democrats had small bracelets made up of symbols of FDR"S regime ~ the NRA, court packing, Japanese bombing pearl harbor, all that sort of thing ~ but i haven't seen them lately.
Maybe Roosevelt quit answering their prayers ~ or maybe they died!
For example, see:
Thanks for your posts - they are always very interesting and revealing to me. I am always amazed when I learn more about the Jewish traditions and beliefs how it opens up an entire deeper meaning to Jesus and his teachings. Not that it changes the meaning (I don’t think) - just makes it deeper and more amazing.
Really, guys, I’ve always sensed that you don’t know what protestants mean by Sola Scriptura.
Now I’m convinced of it, seeing the scriptures you have pulled out as examples of items that “disprove” sola scriptura.
The whole doctrine of “scripture only” is about RESPONSIBLE handling of the scripture.
Take this verse you cited, for example: “Rom 6:17 But God be thanked that [though] you were slaves of sin,
yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.”
Do YOU believe that ANY Catholic who says “I feel it in my heart.” is spouting instructions straight from God??? Of course not. You would say to him, “That really means ______”.
In other words, you've got nothing and are still in denial.
I reject popery
Hardly. You're just confused about who the pope is.
I trust the promises of Scripture. You trust in the empty promises of sinful men.
If that structure is sola scriptura, yes - for certain "One Lord, one faith, one baptism" cannot exist with it.
However if the well-delineated bastion is the pillar and foundation of the truth - which is the church of the living God founded and headed by Christ and led by the Holy Spirit, then it does not, and has not, crumbled and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.
Faith in the Trinity is a hunch?
As opposed to praying to a guilded statue and guided by a man?
yes, he left the congregation in jersusalem, with peter in charge....as he ordained earlier....
the first century is rife with important history, why this gets ignored is fairly obvious....read over Faith of the Fathers, who in their writings from that very era, show the utter catholicity and the kernels of the beginnings of the church, magesterium, and sacred tradition, that the the guiding hallmark of His church today.
lest someone think i am funning about the Roosevelt rosaries, try this: http://www.armycharming.com/wwii ~ same stuff brought up to date ~ i just haven’t seen any of them lately ~ that generation is passing quickly.
Do you contend any post-scriptural speakers are superior, or equal, to those who wrote Scripture?
If “yes”, then kindly detail one post-Scriptural teaching on par with Scripture, and why we should elevate & append it thereto. (Something which, presumably, does not contradict nor claims exemption to Scripture.)
Read in the Bible the temptation of Christ. Christ uses Scripture point by point to refute Satan’s assertions. I don’t have to read Armstrong’s book because we have Christ’s example of how to defeat evil, written for our use. The Bible says..”Resist the Devil and he will flee from you!” Now how did Christ do it? By the power of the word of HIS Father! This word that had been recorded by the prophets of old! The account of the temptation of Jesus Christ is the most powerful account of how Sola Scriptura is supposed to work! Armstrong can stuff it!
“As it is written, man does not live by Bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out from the mouth of God!”
The pope is a wretched sinner and a deceiver of the nations. That’s who your pope is. I hold the historic Protestant view of the papacy. I believe the papacy is an anti-Christ.
Scripture that's self-interpreting, self-authenticating, and self-sufficient.
I have some bad news for you. You're an idolator. Your god is a book.
I know, that was a long time ago, but when the end of the world happened in 535 AD stuff got delayed. It was so bad Jain missionaries came to Europe to teach ahemsa ~
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." John 14:7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; There are not three gods, G-d does not have a mother. I do not believe in a magic show whereby YHvH, Yah'shua NAME means : "YHvH is/be my Salvation" in Hebrew.
I reject all of the Paganisms of the Roman "church". shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Mark 12:29 Yah'shua answered, Father and son are metaphors for different presentations of YHvH.
"The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! YHvH OUR GOD IS ONE YHvH;
from now on you know Him, and have seen Him."
the creator of the universe can be turned into a stale Matzoh.
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
John 14:7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also;
There are not three gods,
G-d does not have a mother.
I do not believe in a magic show whereby YHvH,
Yah'shua NAME means : "YHvH is/be my Salvation" in Hebrew.
You then contend Scripture is incomplete, and subsequent revelations have been pronounced with equal gravitas.
Please enumerate some of these, and how we know they are not just the rantings of mere mortals.
And how, pray tell, is “one Lord, one faith, one baptism” at odds with Scripture sans additives?
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