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Iran: Discovery will collapse Christianity [Barf Alert}
WND ^ | May 24, 2012 | Reza Kahlili

Posted on 05/24/2012 8:35:47 AM PDT by Gamecock

Iran’s Basij Press is claiming that a version of the Gospel of Barnabas, found in 2000, will prove that Islam is the final and righteous religion and the revelation will cause the collapse worldwide of Christianity

Turkish authorities believe the text could be an authentic version of the Gospel of Barnabas, one of Jesus’ apostles and an associate of the apostle Paul.

This version of the Barnabas Gospel was written in the 5th or 6th century and it predicted the coming of the Prophet Mohammad and the religion of Islam, the Basij Press claims.

The Christian world, it says, denies the existence of such a gospel.

Turkey plans to put the Bible on public display. Though Turkish authorities believe this could be an authentic version of the Gospel of Barnabas, others believe it only goes back to the 16th century and is a fake because it would have been written centuries after Mohammad’s life.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: barfalert; barnabas; godsgravesglyphs; gospelofbarnabas; syriac; turkey
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1 posted on 05/24/2012 8:36:00 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

And the same country that produces this tripe is supposed to be trustworthy in nuclear talks?


2 posted on 05/24/2012 8:39:23 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: MeganC
This version of the Barnabas Gospel was written in the 5th or 6th century…

Enough said.

3 posted on 05/24/2012 8:41:05 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Gamecock

I will believe the teachings of Forgiveness and Compassion of Christ are superceded by the teachings of sin begets you a death sentence of Mohammed when donkeys fly.

The very idea that Mohammed was a prophet of the same God Christ spoke of is laughable.

When the powers that be came for Christ, he told his followers to put down their swords, when the powers of the time came for Mohammed he told his followers go out and die to protect me.

The very idea that a lunatic who believe he was the avenging angel of God, and went out to kill anyone who did not convert or live the way he dictated is a continuation of the teachings of Christ is laughable on its face.

Jesus Christ died for your sins, Mohammed would kill you for them. That’s not a continuation of teaching, its a complete dichotomy. Islam took monotheism back to the old testament, not forward.


4 posted on 05/24/2012 8:43:36 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Gamecock

I will believe the teachings of Forgiveness and Compassion of Christ are superceded by the teachings of sin begets you a death sentence of Mohammed when donkeys fly.

The very idea that Mohammed was a prophet of the same God Christ spoke of is laughable.

When the powers that be came for Christ, he told his followers to put down their swords, when the powers of the time came for Mohammed he told his followers go out and die to protect me.

The very idea that a lunatic who believe he was the avenging angel of God, and went out to kill anyone who did not convert or live the way he dictated is a continuation of the teachings of Christ is laughable on its face.

Jesus Christ died for your sins, Mohammed would kill you for them. That’s not a continuation of teaching, its a complete dichotomy. Islam took monotheism back to the old testament, not forward.


5 posted on 05/24/2012 8:44:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Gamecock

I’m sure you’ll be able to buy it on Amazon, packaged with the Hitler Diaries.


6 posted on 05/24/2012 8:44:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gamecock

I’m sure you’ll be able to buy it on Amazon, packaged with the Hitler Diaries.


7 posted on 05/24/2012 8:45:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gamecock
Oh yeah, I'll just drop my concept of a Christian, loving God who gave His life for me and forgives my sins, for a vengeful, sadistic "Allah" who orders amputation of "a hand and a foot on alternate limbs."

Yeah, right Mahmood, I'll do that ... maybe tomorrow.

8 posted on 05/24/2012 8:48:11 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: Gamecock

yeah right.... The Moon God worshipping Muslims want every one to convert or die


9 posted on 05/24/2012 8:49:26 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Petrosius
Indeed. That Barnabas would be six or seven hundred years old.

There is zero evidence Mohammed existed, no contemporary accounts of any kind as to the events recorded of this cartoon character's "biography," zero - zip - nada - not until seventy years after the date of his supposed death.

Meanwhile we have more historic evidence of Jesus Christ than there is of Julius Caesar.

Islam is an Arab mass movement, a political cause with religion added as an afterthought, stolen and stitched from contemporary Christian and Judean orthodoxies.

10 posted on 05/24/2012 8:51:53 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: Gamecock

It’s been tried.


11 posted on 05/24/2012 8:53:15 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Gamecock

So the Gospel of Barnabas written four hundred years after Barnabas lived is going to destroy Christianity??? Yeah, right!


12 posted on 05/24/2012 8:53:46 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Gamecock

Islam has been, is, and always will be nothing but a bad counterfeit job of the teachings of the Holy Scriptures. All they do is take the Scriptures, twist it 180 degrees and then declare that their version is the correct one straight from Allah and the biblical version has been corrupted by the Jews and Christians. Mo-ham-head couldn’t even come up with an original religion. He had to piggyback it onto Judaism and Christianity and then convince other deluded souls that his was the correct version.


13 posted on 05/24/2012 9:03:09 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Gamecock.
14 posted on 05/24/2012 9:04:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Gamecock

Another pseudepigraphical gospel. Yawn.


15 posted on 05/24/2012 9:06:45 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Gamecock. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


16 posted on 05/24/2012 9:07:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Gamecock
Carefully placed by satan and or his minions in an effort to facilitate the great falling away.

????? As good a theory as the Iranians.

17 posted on 05/24/2012 9:16:34 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Gamecock
I think this will boomerang on the mullahs and inside Iran make them seem even weaker and more desperate.

People who have already decided that Iz Lame is nothing but a totalitarian doctrine, many of whom are already turning to Christianity, aren't going to believe anything the thugs in power say. In fact, anything the leadership says is likely to lead people to believe the exact opposite is true.

They've tried being subtle, putting carrots on sticks, brutality, and random violence, but they're still losing ground and seeing control of the country slip through their fingers. All they've managed to accomplish is to turn the majority of Iranians against Iz Lame and Arabs.

18 posted on 05/24/2012 9:19:36 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: eCSMaster

God says “I sacrificed My Son for you”.
allah says “you sacrifice your son to me”.


19 posted on 05/24/2012 9:41:23 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Rashputin
Look at the definition of faith. I do not need a book to affirm my faith. If I truly need something in writing then that does not qualify as faith. Besides, if one book destroys a religion, then how could the Muslims been continuing for so long. By their own logic they would have not believed in their own religion because our Bible says they follow the wrong prophet.
20 posted on 05/24/2012 9:43:33 AM PDT by lynn4303
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To: Rashputin
I think this will boomerang on the mullahs and inside Iran make them seem even weaker and more desperate.

Especially so, if the people can get exposed to the real thing for comparison purposes.

I recall listening to the conversion testimony of a Turk who became a Christian in the late '80s. He told about how very difficult it was for him, then, to get hold of Christian scriptures when he was seeking and asking questions.

21 posted on 05/24/2012 9:44:45 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Gamecock

*Yawn*


22 posted on 05/24/2012 9:48:23 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Gamecock
Iran: Discovery will collapse Christianity [Barf Alert}

USA: Non-Discovery will collapse MORMONism [Fact Alert]

23 posted on 05/24/2012 9:55:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: HamiltonJay
The very idea that a lunatic who believe he was the avenging angel of God, and went out to kill anyone who did not convert or live the way he dictated is a continuation of the teachings of Christ is laughable on its face.


24 posted on 05/24/2012 10:01:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Gamecock

Prediction: There will be a 1 hour documentary on National Geographic touting Iran’s claim starting o/a 1 December 2012.


25 posted on 05/24/2012 10:06:49 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Elsie
SURELY just ONE little ol' item from this HUGE battle can be found and displayed!



 
MORMON
Chapter 6

The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.

1 And now I finish my record concerning the destruction of my people, the Nephites. And it came to pass that we did march forth before the Lamanites.

2 And I, Mormon, wrote an epistle unto the king of the Lamanites, and desired of him that he would grant unto us that we might gather together our people unto the land of Cumorah, by a hill which was called Cumorah, and there we could give them battle.

3 And it came to pass that the king of the Lamanites did grant unto me the thing which I desired. 

4 And it came to pass that we did march forth to the land of Cumorah, and we did pitch our tents around about the hill Cumorah; and it was in a land of many waters, rivers, and fountains; and here we had hope to gain advantage over the Lamanites.

5 And *when three hundred and eighty and four years had passed away, we had gathered in all the remainder of our people unto the land of Cumorah.

6 And it came to pass that when we had gathered in all our people in one to the land of Cumorah, behold I, Mormon, began to be old; and knowing it to be the last struggle of my people, and having been commanded of the Lord that I should not suffer the records which had been handed down by our fathers, which were sacred, to fall into the hands of the Lamanites, (for the Lamanites would destroy them) therefore I made this record out of the plates of Nephi, and hid up in the hill Cumorah all the records which had been entrusted to me by the hand of the Lord, save it were these few plates which I gave unto my son Moroni.

7 And it came to pass that my people, with their wives and their children, did now behold the armies of the Lamanites marching towards them; and with that awful fear of death which fills the breasts of all the wicked, did they await to receive them.

8 And it came to pass that they came to battle against us, and every soul was filled with terror because of the greatness of their numbers.

9 And it came to pass that they did fall upon my people with the sword, and with the bow, and with the arrow, and with the ax, and with all manner of weapons of war.

10 And it came to pass that my men were hewn down, yea, even my ten thousand who were with me, and I fell wounded in the midst; and they passed by me that they did not put an end to my life.

11And when they had gone through and hewn down all my people save it were twenty and four of us, (among whom was my son Moroni) and we having survived the dead of our people, did behold on the morrow, when the Lamanites had returned unto their camps, from the top of the hill Cumorah, the ten thousand of my people who were hewn down, being led in the front by me.

12 And we also beheld the ten thousand of my people who were led by my son Moroni.

13 And behold, the ten thousand of Gidgiddonah had fallen, and he also in the midst.

14 And Lamah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Gilgal had fallen with his ten thousand; and Limhah had fallen with his ten thousand; and Jeneum had fallen with his ten thousand; and Cumenihah, and Moronihah, and Antionum, and Shiblom, and Shem, and Josh, had fallen with their ten thousand each.

15 And it came to pass that there were ten more who did fall by the sword, with their ten thousand each; yea, even all my people, save it were those twenty and four who were with me, and also a few who had escaped into the south countries, and a few who had deserted over unto the Lamanites, had fallen; and their flesh, and bones, and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the land, and to crumble and to return to their mother earth.

16 And my soul was rent with anguish, because of the slain of my people, and I cried:

17 O ye fair ones, how could ye have departed from the ways of the Lord! O ye fair ones, how could ye have rejected that Jesus, who stood with open arms to receive you!

18 Behold, if ye had not done this, ye would not have fallen. But behold, ye are fallen, and I mourn your loss.

19 O ye fair sons and daughters, ye fathers and mothers, ye husbands and wives, ye fair ones, how is it that ye could have fallen!

20 But behold, ye are gone, and my sorrows cannot bring your return.

21 And the day soon cometh that your mortal must put on immortality, and these bodies which are now moldering in corruption must soon become incorruptible bodies; and then ye must stand before the judgment-seat of Christ, to be judged according to your works; and if it so be that ye are righteous, then are ye blessed with your fathers who have gone before you.

22 O that ye had repented before this great destruction had come upon you. But behold, ye are gone, and the Father, yea, the Eternal Father of heaven, knoweth your state; and he doeth with you according to his justice and mercy.


 
 
Mormon 8:2
And now it came to pass that after the great and tremendous battle at Cumorah, behold, the Nephites who had escaped into the country southward were hunted by the Lamanites, until they were all destroyed.


26 posted on 05/24/2012 10:07:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw

People will fly in here calling us “bigots” and “hateful” if we don’t except this gospel as being part of Christianity.....


27 posted on 05/24/2012 10:10:31 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Elsie

Is there’s any relationship between Porter and Norm?


28 posted on 05/24/2012 10:13:02 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Elsie

Yup. islam + The Silmarillion = mormonism.


29 posted on 05/24/2012 10:16:38 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: dragonblustar
This version of the Barnabas Gospel was written in the 5th or 6th century and it predicted the coming of the Prophet Mohammad and the religion of Islam, the Basij Press claims.

Hey, maybe it's true. Barnabas predicts the coming of Mohammad and Islam, which in turn may provide an additional confirmation of Revelations.
30 posted on 05/24/2012 10:17:54 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Nifster

Actually, it’s Moon GODDESS worshipping mooselimbs. Origins of the mooselimb allah are from the lesser Hindu Mood Goddess worshipped around Medina in MoHamhead’s time.


31 posted on 05/24/2012 10:30:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: dragonblustar

You are correct, so just call me bigoted and hateful, much of that will come from so called Christians.


32 posted on 05/24/2012 10:39:04 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Gamecock

Holy smokes! I haven’t read all the FR responses, but this article is so full of holes it’s hard to know where to start. Barnabas an Apostle of Jesus? A 5th century apocryphal document has weight in determining the historical truth of the Gospel? Why am I wasting my day writing this response? Where was I...


33 posted on 05/24/2012 10:43:32 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: svcw
much of that will come from so called Christians.

So very true.

34 posted on 05/24/2012 10:51:49 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: BikerJoe
Hey, maybe it's true. Barnabas predicts the coming of Mohammad and Islam, which in turn may provide an additional confirmation of Revelations.

You have to keep in mind that that Muslim's version of Jesus comes back and converts to Islam, says he was wrong about Christianity, then goes after and kills people who don't convert to Islam.

35 posted on 05/24/2012 10:54:48 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Gamecock

Funny thing is, this “Gospel” was dated after Mo in many cases.


36 posted on 05/24/2012 11:32:11 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Prospero
Islam is an Arab mass movement, a political cause with religion added as an afterthought ........... This.
37 posted on 05/24/2012 11:33:25 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Elsie
hunted by the Lamanites ....... Oh great! With all the crap going on, now my floor is coming after me?!?!?! That's it. I'm suing Home Depot.
38 posted on 05/24/2012 11:37:23 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Gamecock
stupid

39 posted on 05/24/2012 11:47:18 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: dragonblustar
You have to keep in mind that that Muslim's version of Jesus comes back and converts to Islam, says he was wrong about Christianity, then goes after and kills people who don't convert to Islam.

Wasn't aware of that. I AM however aware that the timeline of events surrounding the return of their "Mahdi" is 1 to 1 with the timeline of events associated with the AntiChrist of Revelations.

I'll stick with the Jesus I worship.
40 posted on 05/24/2012 12:34:36 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: MHGinTN

yup your are correct... sorry my feeble brain just went into you have got to be kidding mode


41 posted on 05/24/2012 12:40:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: BikerJoe
Barnabas predicts the coming of Mohammad and Islam...

Not much gets past him; does it!

Actually; Barney is a bit late:

Matthew 24:24

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.


42 posted on 05/24/2012 1:17:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BikerJoe
I AM however aware that the timeline of events surrounding the return of their "Mahdi" is 1 to 1 with the timeline of events associated with the AntiChrist of Revelations.

I am NOT aware of any antichrist being mentioned at all in Revelation.

43 posted on 05/24/2012 1:21:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
I am NOT aware of any antichrist being mentioned at all in Revelation.

My mistake. The False Prophet.
44 posted on 05/24/2012 1:36:29 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Elsie

Are you speaking of Mohammad or one Jos. Smith?


45 posted on 05/24/2012 2:12:37 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: svcw
American liberalism has destroyed much of Christianity in this nation. Sadly many conservatives have be turned by this slow manipulation of various churches by a liberal clergy into the “kymbaya, all paths are right” Oprah style Christianity.

They will read “no one comes unto the Father except through me” in the Bible they say they follow, and in turn look down on a Christian who says that those outside the faith are condemned because its “mean”and "hateful"...

46 posted on 05/25/2012 4:11:48 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: svcw
American liberalism has destroyed much of Christianity in this nation. Sadly many conservatives have be turned by this slow manipulation of various churches by a liberal clergy into the “kymbaya, all paths are right” Oprah style Christianity.

They will read “no one comes unto the Father except through me” in the Bible they say they follow, and in turn look down on a Christian who says that those outside the faith are condemned because its “mean”and "hateful"...

47 posted on 05/25/2012 4:12:09 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Gamecock
The mullahs had best be careful.

*If* they could establish a provenance for the "Gospel of Barnabas" in the 5th-6th century, that would mean it wasn't a 15th C. Islamic forgery, but yet-another heretical "gnostic gospel".

That would mean that the basic Muslim apologetic against Christianity is really the product of a cultic offshoot from Christianity, a heresy, which preceded Mohammed by maybe a century. And if it can be shown that Mohammed borrowed part of Islam from some Christian heresy, why not the whole thing? Suddenly he's not a prophet, just a plagiarist.

48 posted on 05/25/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

“Suddenly he’s not a prophet, just a plagiarist.”

The three “P’s” - Plagiarist, Pedophile, POS.

Just like the Dems in Congress and the Executive branch...
...they plagiarize The Communist Manifesto
...they are pedophiles, stealing the heritage that would be our children’s and our grandchildren’s
...and everyone of them is a POS


49 posted on 05/25/2012 5:29:55 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Gamecock

By muslim standards one would have expected Adam and Eve to have been islamic too...which could explain though how things got so screwed up.


50 posted on 05/25/2012 5:31:14 AM PDT by onedoug
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