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To: Natural Law

“That is a gross mischaracterization that had its origin in the propaganda of the Reformation”

The Catholic Church had to be reformed it was corrupt and it is still an apostate church.

‘”The Catholic Church affirms that Scripture contains all that is necessary for Salvation. Going ever further, the Church teaches that Salvation van be found in the Gospels or even a few of the words of Jesus.”

If you believe that, then why add to God’s word? Get rid of all of the nonsense in the Catholic church and return to God’s word.

“The Traditions of the Church, derived from the oral teachings of Jesus, the Apostles, and the Early Church Fathers were considered counter-scriptural.”

The oral traditions of the Church is the GOSPEL thats what the apostles taught. That’s exactly what John is talking about in John 21:25.

You and I are to teach Jesus, the very same Jesus that the apostles taught. We aren’t supposed to teach the ideas, commandments, and theories and traditions of men. Matt. 15:8-108 “These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.”

2 Thess 2:14-16 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle

As you can see from scripture, the oral traditions and the epistles were the same.


77 posted on 05/19/2012 12:04:43 PM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101
"If you believe that, then why add to God’s word? Get rid of all of the nonsense in the Catholic church and return to God’s word."

Because we desire the completeness of Revelation. Jesus, when asked in Matthew 22:37-40 what Law was the greatest, rewrote the entire Old Testament in Matthew 22:37-40 when He gave us His Two Greatest Commandments; "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" and to "Love your neighbor as yourself."

It can be argued that nothing else is required, if not the rest of Scripture or the Traditions of the Church He founded, then certainly not the interpretations of the Reformation.

"The oral traditions of the Church is the GOSPEL thats what the apostles taught."

The Bible was not written to replace the Traditions, but to supplement them. To borrow a phrase from Protestants; "show me where in Scripture it says that the Bible was to replace Tradition the moment it was canonized, or where it says in Scripture what the Canon process was to be, or who was to determine the Canon, and what the table of contents of the Bible was to be. It was the traditions of the Church between the death and resurrection of Jesus and the formalizing of the Canon that preserved and defended the Gospels.

Note that although all of the Apostles preached the Gospels only two of the Gospels were written by Apostles. Numerous books purportedly written by Apostles were not included in canon.

127 posted on 05/19/2012 3:14:08 PM PDT by Natural Law (Mary was the face that God chose for Himself.)
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