[tedw]

“But I don’t see them denegrating AA and saying the path that got them sober and on better footing with God is UNTRUE.”

I am telling the Truth about AA, not denigrating it. There are better programs than AA and a person would be well advised to seek them out. I will gladly recommend them to anyone interested.

Your too defensive. AA has lost it’s way. There acceptance of homosexuality is just one sign of it.

[winodog]

What “better” programs? AA is everywhere, its free, and it works for many people.

AA turned away from the salvation of Jesus Christ a long long time ago. Bill W and the Doctor talked about it. They said it did not work for everyone to be beat with the Bible. Most people had been preached to all their lives.

Christians operating in AA have to be subtle and wise like a fox. But it is a wonderful place to plant seeds and be the salt of the earth and be used by God to see miracles.

[Lazamataz]

Okay, we are getting nowhere with you. Really didn't figure I would. However, I am not really writing to you. I am writing to the others, especially those in active addiction or alcoholism, who may read it.

I will conclude with this: Ted says: "I am telling the Truth about AA, not denigrating it. There are better programs than AA and a person would be well advised to seek them out."

I say, instead: "There are many programs of recovery out there. None of them are 'better' than the other. Go find the one that seems to work best for *you*. Keep trying until you get sober and find God. Just keep trying until you find what works for you."

You are exclusionary. I am inclusionary. I need do something now, so I will stop responding to you. You may have the last word.