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Do We Want a Religious Exemption?
The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property ^ | February 21, 2012 | Written by John Horvat II

Posted on 04/29/2012 2:09:27 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand

It has been said that “the road to Hell is paved with religious exemptions.” There are always those who are willing to cut a deal with the devil to avoid having to confront a thorny moral issue.

This is certainly the case of the Dept. of Health and Human Services (HHS) mandate which would now force employers to provide medical insurance that guarantees free birth control, tubal ligation, and morning-after abortifacients. There are those who hope to avoid the whole issue by rallying around the idea of a religious exemption.

In fact, the whole debate is even being framed by the liberal media as a mere question of religious exemption. What is at stake, they claim, is the question of a few stubborn religious employers such as Catholics hospitals and universities that object to supplying birth control to their employees. When the Administration agreed to “accommodate” them by ordering the insurers to provide these “services” free of charge, Catholic institutions, unwilling to cut a deal, are made to look unreasonable.

Such a vision is completely false. This is not just a case of religious employers. This is a case of any American, Catholic or non-Catholic, religious employer or factory owner, who refuses to act as an accomplice to a policy that treats pregnancy as a disease and sexual promiscuity as a right.

What this mandate essentially does is open the virtual equivalent of a Planned Parenthood clinic inside every factory, workplace, school, university or hospital in America. It forces employers to provide the virtual space inside their enterprises for these clinics to operate – free of charge.

Thus, we do not want a religious exemption. We cannot narrow the problem to specific religious institutions since it does nothing to address the problems of countless non-religious insurers, employers, self-employed and, yes, even employees who do not fall into the very narrow religious category and yet object to participating in any way in this travesty of health care. We do not want any exemption since exemptions are by their very nature “privileges” that are just as easily taken away as they are granted.

Revoking the mandate will not solve this problem. The problem lies in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, popularly dubbed “Obamacare.” Its provisions allow for unprecedented government intervention and socialist control over the private health care decisions of all Americans. We cannot cut a deal. Until this act is revoked, we can expect to see a string of stern government measures steamrolling the rights of all since the road to socialism has always been paved by the discarded promises, special deals – and, yes, religious exemptions.


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KEYWORDS: mandates; obamacare; tfp
Timothy Cardinal Dolan hearts a "religious exemption".
1 posted on 04/29/2012 2:09:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

To our catholic Brothers and Sisters; Please, hang in there for we Evangelicals are on your side. We must make it perfectly clear that we will not abide demands by the government that we set aside our beliefs to accomodate some notion of “social justicce.”


2 posted on 04/29/2012 2:24:13 PM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Did anyone catch this exchange between Congressman Gowdy and Ms. Sibelius on Friday?

Kathleen Sibelius gets a lesson on the US Constitution

3 posted on 04/29/2012 2:37:51 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: RightField
FR Thread on the Exchange between Congressman Gowdy and HHS Secretary

I should have put this into my previous post.

4 posted on 04/29/2012 2:42:59 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: the invisib1e hand
As discussed at the Constitutional Convention, governments rule either by force or persuasion. We used to be the latter, where friends and associates represented our interests for a while, then returned home to live under the laws they passed.

As Congress grants more and more law making authority to the tyrannic administrative state, the citizen's circle of freedom is nearly gone. Witness the exponential increase in uniformed, armed officers for nearly every governmental agency.

There are no moral or constitutional reasons to obey the illegal diktats of Baby-Doc.

We the People granted limited legislative authority to Congress and no others.

This will not end well.

5 posted on 04/29/2012 2:55:03 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Jacquerie
Yet "church leaders" - embodied in Cardinal Dolan - seem posturing to "make a deal."

He’s very publicly – and seemingly with the sympathy of the media, which is rarely if ever sympathetic to hard truths – saying quotable, churchy things: “This administration is insinuating itself into the very life of the Church”; he’s threatening to sue "all the way to the Supreme Court" but by doing so he’s putting the whole matter to the court of public opinion and seems to be setting the stage for a “compromise” which can only make both he and obama look like heroes.

He's talking terms of earthly power. A guaranteed loser for the Church. He's Obama's pope.

6 posted on 04/29/2012 3:04:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Pyro7480; NYer; narses

catholi ping


7 posted on 04/29/2012 4:13:29 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: the invisib1e hand

You nailed it.


8 posted on 04/29/2012 4:15:11 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
This is a case of any American, Catholic or non-Catholic, religious employer or factory owner, who refuses to act as an accomplice to a policy that treats pregnancy as a disease and sexual promiscuity as a right.

So very well said. I hate to think that my individual liberty is only guaranteed if I'm a member of an organized religion.
9 posted on 04/29/2012 4:17:02 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: RightField

YES, I watched it all. The intelligent Congressman ripped the ignorant Sebelius to shreds....repeatedly.


10 posted on 04/29/2012 4:32:15 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: redgolum
You nailed it.

I hope not.

11 posted on 04/29/2012 4:43:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: andyk
So very well said. I hate to think that my individual liberty is only guaranteed if I'm a member of an organized religion.

The Cardinal said,

…The Catholic Church has advocated for universal health care for nearly a century…All we have asked is that the Church be left alone to continue to doing the good work in education, charity, and health care that we have always done…
I would ask: If the church really wanted to be "left alone", why did it advocate for universal healthcare to begin with? Why didn't it advocate for a government that would leave the matter in the hands of the producers and consumers of such services? Should the Church seek a privilege for itself that the populace in general doesn’t enjoy -- the right to be “left alone?”
12 posted on 04/29/2012 4:46:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand; lilycicero; MaryLou1; glock rocks; JPG; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; ...
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13 posted on 04/29/2012 5:02:07 PM PDT by narses
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To: the invisib1e hand
“Yet “church leaders” - embodied in Cardinal Dolan - seem posturing to “make a deal.”...........

This is absolutely false!! Cardinal Dolan and the bishops have repeatedly stated in certain terms that any coercion on the part of the federal government to force people of conscience to act against their beliefs is contrary to the the First Amendment and the entire law should be declared as such by the SCOTUS. In particular since Obama’s faux compromise, the bishops have become more specific about the need to not trust the government, and to oppose any HHS mandate to the point of imprisonment if necessary;

Knock it off, all you Anti-Dolan bloggers. He's leading the cause for all Americans who love liberty and our Bill of Rights.

14 posted on 04/29/2012 5:46:04 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: the invisib1e hand
“Yet “church leaders” - embodied in Cardinal Dolan - seem posturing to “make a deal.”...........

This is absolutely false!! Cardinal Dolan and the bishops have repeatedly stated in certain terms that any coercion on the part of the federal government to force people of conscience to act against their beliefs is contrary to the the First Amendment and the entire law should be declared as such by the SCOTUS. In particular since Obama’s faux compromise, the bishops have become more specific about the need to not trust the government, and to oppose any HHS mandate to the point of imprisonment if necessary;

Knock it off, all you Anti-Dolan bloggers. He's leading the cause for all Americans who love liberty and our Bill of Rights.

15 posted on 04/29/2012 5:46:04 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Gumdrop
Cardinal Dolan and the bishops have repeatedly stated in certain terms that any coercion on the part of the federal government to force people of conscience to act against their beliefs is contrary to the the First Amendment and the entire law should be declared as such by the SCOTUS. In particular since Obama’s faux compromise, the bishops have become more specific about the need to not trust the government, and to oppose any HHS mandate to the point of imprisonment if necessary;

that would certainly be a requisite for "posturing."

16 posted on 04/29/2012 5:55:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

I wouldn’t call him “Obama’s Pope,” as someone with that title would be publicly supporting it, I reckon.

But I will say it seems to me that if the mandate really is a big deal to them, then they would use discipline on public Catholics who voted for it and continue to support it. It’s like trying to fight a war while well known traitors in your uniform are allowed to advise and sell secrets to the enemy in front of everyone and then publicly say it is both a good thing and they are heroes for doing so. Just gives the impression that the war must not really be a big deal to the Generals when you get right down to it.

Did Canada and Euro-states already go through this? How did the Church handle it there? Or is the conflict different here or something?

Freegards


17 posted on 04/29/2012 5:58:11 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: the invisib1e hand
Actually, the USCCB, of which Cdl. Dolan is the president, has made it clear that all employers who object to the mandate need to be protected, not only church-related ones.

God willing, the SCOTUS will strike down the whole evil law and this whole discussion becomes moot.

18 posted on 04/30/2012 5:28:52 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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