Posted on 12/24/2011 4:34:44 AM PST by Cronos
La Esposa wants to skip tomorrow. I do not.
Question 46: What was the estate of Christ's humiliation?Answer: The estate of Christ's humiliation was that low condition, wherein he for our sakes, emptying himself of his glory, took upon him the form of a servant, in his conception and birth, life, death, and after his death, until his resurrection.
Question 47: How did Christ humble himself in his conception and birth?
Answer: Christ humbled himself in his conception and birth, in that, being from all eternity the Son of God, in the bosom of the Father, he was pleased in the fulness of time to become the son of man, made of a woman of low estate, and to be born of her; with divers circumstances of more than ordinary abasement.
Yes, Westminster makes for dry reading.
Celebrate the incarnation.
It’s true we don’t really know exactly when He was born, but sheep graze outdoors year round.? “And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. (Luke 2:8). “November through early March is “winter” in Israel! The weather gets cold, especially at night. Often it rains or even snows! “Jesus was probably not born in the winter, because “shepherds were watching their flocks by night”. Shepherds only watch their flocks by night when it is comfortable outside. The census “could hardly have been in the winter season, for such a time would surely NOT have been chosen by the authorities for a public enrollment, which necessitated the population’s traveling from all parts to their natal districts, bitter cold, snow storms and rain -making journeys both unsafe and unpleasant.”
Blah, blah. Tammuz, the Sumerian deity was forgotten before the Neo-Babylonian empire collapsed. And the feast was
1. celebrated according the old Sumerian calendar which does not gel with ours (you can compare a lunar based with a solar base but the days change each year) and
2. in general a summer feast.
Do read up before shooting false facts all the time
true, hence one ignore's a remark like in the post by Editor-surveyor: “Christmas,” the birth of Tammuz,
Forget about it I guess
Merry Christmas all! Hallelujah!
There’s also the little detail of “no room at the inn”. I doubt that the time window for the census was so narrow that everybody went to register at the same time. It’s far more likely that Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem at a time when Jerusalem and all the surrounding villages were overcrowded with pilgrims. What would you think if I suggest that maybe Jesus was born in late Fall, during Sukkoth (Tabernacles)? It would not only explain the “no room at the inn” business, but would fulfill the prophecy that God will dwell (tabernacle) with His people in the 21st chapter of Revelation (with final fulfillment during the Millennium).
Got to remember that that Israel’s/the Holy Land’s weather, is a lot more temperate, because Israel’s is in the same paraell as is southern CA, USA, weather wise.
Remember that Rosh Hashanna is part of the “old covenant”. The birth of Jesus is celibrated as the birth of the “new covenant”.
Please see post number 48, thank-you!
A good and blessed Merry Christmas Season to you also!
Had LOTS of Catholics attending mass of midnight at 10PM. Not SRO like the children’s mass at 4:30PM, the vigil, but very well attended. The midnight mass at 10PM, the adult choir, which I am a part of, sang at that mass. The children’s choir sang at the vigil. The music minister explained to the “C and E” Catholics new English mass word changes, with printed papers of the new word changes. I am very hopeful that this will bring many of those folks BACK to church on a regular basis.
Even St. Peter’s in Rome moved its midnight mass up two hours, to help the Pope out.
Zechariah was from the division of Abijah (Luke 1:5), which means he most likely was serving the week of Sivan 12-18, so John would have been born on or about Passover. We know 6 months after John’s conception, Mary conceived Jesus (Luke 1:26,36). Therefore, Jesus would have been conceived in the month of Kislev, maybe during Hanukkah (the festival of lights)? Starting at Hanukkah, and counting through the 9 months of Mary’s pregnancy, one arrives at the approximate time of the birth of Jesus at the Festival of Tabernacles.
Just something to think about.
The idea that any Christian church would be closed on a Sunday ... much less a Sunday that is also Christmas! ... is scandalous. Honoring the Sabbath IS still a commandment.
I believe all the Christmas Readings contained a reading from Isaiah and a Psalm.
God’s appointed times are from long before the “old covenant” to the end of all things.
All things are to conform to his appointed times, until there are no things left.
Christmas is nowhere to be found in the Bible, but his appointed times fill the “New Testament” to the exclusion of all else. Why do you suppose that is so? (This is so both in the Gospels, as well as the epistles)
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