Skip to comments.U.S. military says Afghan bibles have been destroyed
Posted on 09/09/2010 4:45:52 AM PDT by Doctor13
KABUL | Tue May 5, 2009 4:15pm IST
KABUL (Reuters) - Bibles in Afghan languages sent to a U.S. soldier at a base in Afghanistan were confiscated and destroyed to ensure that troops did not breach regulations which forbid proselytising, a military spokeswoman said.
The U.S. military has denied its soldiers tried to convert Afghans to Christianity, after Qatar-based Al Jazeera television showed soldiers at a bible class on a base with a stack of bibles translated into the local Pashto and Dari languages.
"I can now confirm that the Bibles shown on Al Jazeera's clip were, in fact, collected by the chaplains and later destroyed. They were never distributed," spokeswoman Major Jennifer Willis said at Bagram air base, north of Kabul.
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Obama is concerned about a private citizen destroying Quran’s and yet our own government destroys Bibles. Go figure.
Some have called Pastor Jones a coward for not burning the Koran in a Middle-Eastern country rather than here in the United States. No, this man is not a coward. Pastor Jones knows the consequences; that he, his family and his entire congregation will now be under a fatwa (death sentence) That's what Muslims know how to do best!
Furthermore, if an American flag can be burned under Freedom of Speech, Pastor Jones has that same right to remind people of what happened on 9/11.
So by my count, Petraeus and his predecessors have burned far more bibles than the number of Korans that berk in Florida plans to burn. Just sayin'.
Question of the day: why did they destroy the bibles and not simply ship them back? where was the respect?
Also, has anyone else had it with this pc crap. The west is at war with islam. Is this how we fight?
Without Jesus Christ and the Bible, our country, our republic, our visions, and our very lives would not exist!!
Don’t you think it is time to say it like it is.. If we keep glossing over the truth in order to pacify those who would have us dead in the name of some misplaced morality and turn our backs on the one who made it possible we are in for a world of hurt. The whole world knows Islam is barbaric, the whole world is acting like, oh no they might get mad, lets piss em off..and tell the truth, only Jesus Christ can save your soul and he does not recognize Mohammad as anything but a liar and a thief.. There that was said with love for the muslim people that they may repent of Islam and seek the true Christ, not the watered down one Mohammad presented Him as in His satanic stupors..
Can’t burn a Qu’ran because it upsets the Islamic Nation...
But BURN the Bible’s because if we don’t - it will upset the Islamic Nation...
If you think badly about Muslims...it will upset the Islamic Nation...
If you render a drawing/pinting of Muhammad...it will upset the Islamic Nation...
If you write about upsetting the Islamic Nation...it will upset the Islamic Nation...
If you invade a corrupt regime and attempt to replace it with something more peaceful in hopes that all it’s citizens will enjoy freedoms and prosperity...it will upset the Islamic Nation...
If you try to give rights to women...it will upset the Islamic Nation...
if you do not beleive in Muhammad or you are not a Muslim...it will upset the Islamic Nation...
is there a theme going here...or am I paranoid (kick in with Ozzy song)
What’s even weirder is that folks on the left can try to defend both positions AND claim they’re not being hypocritical.
All it does is expose their “means to the ends” justification in their war on all things Christian.
The Pastor received a phone call from a retired Green Beret Special Forces member and you must hear what he had to say.
You either believe in Freedom or you don’t. If we aren’t fighting for the freedom of Afghanis to Choose their own religion, we shouldn’t be fighting. The only way to defeat terror is freedom. That ain’t Freedom.
The question must be asked, "Are soldiers under his command still destroying Bibles also?"
Think I’ll get a Koran (I’m sure Barnes & Noble has a whole section devoted to Islam) and burn it on 9/11!
Yeah, your theme is called surrender.
"First, as we noted back in May 2009, Al Jazeera kicked off a propaganda jihad with some year old footage showing Bibles in Afghanistan."
WOW. Unbelievable! Our military stood by in Yugoslavia and watched muslems burn a 3 story hospital filled with Christians and did nothing.
They did nothing because our govt ordered them to do nothing. And this same retired Green Beret who personally watched this event in Yugoslavia tells Terry Jones that the special forces SUPPORTS the koran burning. This puts this whole koran burning thing in a whole new perspective for me. Thanks for that link.
So apparently Christians are open targets that our military will not protect, but military brass will protect the koran over people’s lives. We are so screwed as a country, its unbelievable.
I’m IN! Great idea. The muzzies are using our own first amendment laws to do their thing. The Reverend has every right to burn the Koran. Screw what anyone else thinks. Barnes and Nobles opens in 1/2 hour.
Someone once said, if you get into a dog fight and let the other guy fight dirty and you don't, you're gonna lose, my friend.
We are facing a matter of survival. Today there are more practicing Muslims in Britain than there are practicing Anglicans. France is a basket case. By 2050 (now I've read as early as 2025) Islam will be the primary religion in Europe.
Take a look at what is happening today in THIS country! Schools throughout the nation are providing rooms for Muslim students to be able to pray during the entire month of Ramadan, while our children cannot even bend their heads to say a prayer over their lunches. Universities are providing foot baths for their Muslim students. This has extended even to Muslim taxi drivers. A football team in Michigan is practicing at night so that Muslim students don't have to practice during the Ramadan month in daylight. The call to prayer (which our president recites in perfect Arabic) is now being heard five times a day in many of our cities
What more proof does anyone need to know that if we do not stand up to what is happening to us, we might as well roll over and bare our throats now.
Now, ask yourself the question. "Can you be a good Muslim AND a good American?" The Koran demands that they seek out the infidel and slay him (that's you and I my friend). If they do not, then they are good Americans. So it is obvious they cannnot be both.
As someone once said, "They [the Muslims] want to co-exist until they can control, dominate, and if need be, destroy."
I understand the military’s rationale, but you’re right, plain talk, the timing is rotten. I wasn’t aware of the “Prime Directive” mentioned. A Christian soldier truly has to consider how to balance the military authority he serves with the Higher Authority that gives conflicting commands (Matthew 28:19-20 and 1 Peter 3:15 as a start).
I’m a former officer myself, and I understand that service in the armed forces requires the member to relinquish some civil liberties. This is way out on the boundary of that, though - ultimately, the believer has to serve God first, or their very oath of enlistment is called into question.
Looks as if we only press for diversity under freedom, but no diversity is to be considered in an Islam controlled nation!
We, are charged before God, as a nation “Under God” and with a national motto: “In God We Trust” to provide God’s message of His Son Jesus Christ.”
He, Jesus Christ, is the only Saviour given to mankind by God, whereby we must be saved!
Why does the expression, “No more Mr. Nice Guy” keep popping into my head.
At some point, we, as a nation, will have to decide whether we will:
1) Become Dhimmis and slowly slide backward into Islam
2) Joyfully grab our prayer rugs & compasses and figure out the direction to bow toward Mecca. (Obama-taught lessons will be available on DVD)
3) Or fight, initially figuratively, as a civilization against Islam.
Since Islam demands exclusivity of thought, word and deed in its domain, we have no choices other than to fight or to yield.
What will it be?
I am going to burn one, film it and post it on YouTube. To hell with mooslims, they are trash and should be eradicated.
When Bibles are outlawed, only outlaws will have Bibles.
“I can now confirm that the Bibles shown on Al Jazeera’s clip were, in fact, collected by the chaplains and later destroyed
That does it...
All 300 million of us Americans will be over there with violence etc...
That is one sure way of causing a problem our overlords can’t solve. ;0)
Fight and then fight some more.
Double standards are the liberal way of life that is like an infectious cancer.
A Christians duty is to spread the Gospel. We are in fact commanded to do so. That order is above and beyond any order in which any government give. In fact an order not to spread the Gospel is to be immediately and without hesitation DISOBEYED.
If I bring up a computer screen with text from the Koran, and then I copy it into a word document, and then put the document in the trash can, will it cause international outrage and endanger our troops?
I wish someone would put a Koran and a Bible together with the Torah and burn all three, and put it on the Internet, just to show the difference between the “Religion of Peace” and the two other major religions in this world.
It’s unfortunate that the guy is making this into a stunt, and making it hard to use as a teachable moment.
But imagine if, instead of burning Korans, he was instead promising to baptize 1000 new Muslim converts to Christianity on 9/11.
Would the Islamic world be any less outraged? Of course not. Would our troops be in any less danger? Certainly not. But how would the opponents react? Would Petraeus have the guts to urge a pastor not to administer sacraments because it would endanger our troops? Would the President invoke his commander-in-chief powers to ask him to stand down?
You know, it’s hard to do analogies for this, because no other religion would respond like muslims do.
Not a story, move on or turn the page.
There is a lot of truth to this political cartoon!
“But imagine if, instead of burning Korans, he was instead promising to baptize 1000 new Muslim converts to Christianity on 9/11.”
Another pastor would be very wise to make THIS sort of statement.
You will be lynched by members of this forum if you do. If you want to burn something you better stick to burning the Holy Bible, the American Flag, or Blackthorn workers. That will spare you the wrath of the muslim and quran defenders.
The US military is an honorable organization and we said we would not do anything against the tenants of Islam and proselytizing Christianity in Afghanistan. We destroyed the Afghan-English bibles as a symbol of our commitment to not proselytizing there.
1) Al Jizera had the bibles on their news broadcast which if we had not had removed and destroyed the bibles, would have had more foreign Jihadist and Mujahedeen pouring money, weapons and fighters into the AOR/battlespace. Since the bradcast I will assume the Radical Muslim media is brimming with more hatred against the US and rallying support for the Taliban. I have not looked at the Pakitastan media but it could lessen civil and government support of US attacks on Taliban and Al-Qaida in their country. I have had enough problems with irrational Muslims poking into Iraq and the NATO and US forces in Afghanistan will have increased problems now.
2) The with out destroying the books would have been used by the Taliban as a talking point to say we where just waiting for later to begin the Christianization of a Muslim country for recruitment/rallying troops.
3) The Taliban has used Christians in the country as an excuse for their violence and or robbery of non Muslims in Afghanistan and will continue to do so. This incident will already have far consequences in that they will be more vulnerable now for the Taliban will have more excuses to kill them even if they are just being good people and helping innocents.
4) This will give the Iranian government more leverage and allow them to put more aid into the fight against us. (see other news articles about Iran involvement into Afghanistan)
I understand how many of the people in FR would have issues and will defend their Religion and way of life from radical Islam but this bible disaster will be a cause celeb that we must eliminate fast or it will cause more pain for us.
Gads, this whole cult is really irritating me beyond "tolerance." Will anyone be angry at the millions of Christians have been and are murdered in Sudan and elsewhere? Will anyone remember just weeks ago ten aide workers were murdered in Afghanistan because they were Christian? Anyone remember Daniel Pearl, Op Cast Lead, Mumbai, Ft Hood, It's endless madness and barbaric murder and THEY WANT US TO SHOW TOLERANCE? Until when? Until every minaret in the country is hallowed ground while our own government burns Bibles in some pissant reactionary appeasement in which they( muslims) just keep pushing and pushing and pushing?
Argghhhhhhhh! Someone please tell me this is all a nightmare. The darkness as prophesied is growing. The days of apostacy are ever present and the US government is burning bibles to appease, to negotiate terrorist idol worshoping thugs. In any other generation of the US we'd be outraged. Are we angry enough to allow a Qur'an burning for every Bible burnt? They want an eye for an eye yet they chop off the heads of non believers and Jews of course as less than human pigs and we are supposed to appease these monsters? Xin Loi
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