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To: Iscool; Mr Rogers
This is the dogma of your religion

This is the a dogma of your religion.

It is little wonder that so much falsehood is taught about what we believe. So many who disagree with us eschew the precision which reasons requires.

I too was troubled for many years by the apparent intellectual dishonesty of dealing with Boniface this way. Then I saw that it is not necessary for the intention of the one who defines a dogma to be right, it is the dogma, not the Pope, on which we are to rely.

So, I'm guessing Boniface was trying to use his position and clout to push around fractious European monarchs. He set out to make a statement about how they owed him some kind of homage, and ended up making a definitive ecclesiastical statement. He meant it for evil, but God meant it for good.

I am not writing this to persuade you that we are right. Rather I am trying to suggest another way to look at the abomination we feelthy papists represent, so that you can enjoy more variety in despising our Church. ;-)

206 posted on 10/25/2009 1:06:09 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

>>Rather I am trying to suggest another way to look at the abomination we feelthy papists represent, so that you can enjoy more variety in despising our Church. ;-) <<

Thou doth rock majorly.


208 posted on 10/25/2009 1:14:19 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Mad Dawg
So, I'm guessing Boniface was trying to use his position and clout to push around fractious European monarchs. He set out to make a statement about how they owed him some kind of homage, and ended up making a definitive ecclesiastical statement. He meant it for evil, but God meant it for good.

So you admit Boniface was a scoundrel...What makes you think God was involved at all in Boniface's proclamation???

349 posted on 10/26/2009 5:23:45 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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