Posted on 01/12/2009 6:18:36 AM PST by P-Marlowe
1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
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People only need to read Mark Twain’s “Roughing It” to understand the absolute ridiculousness of this extremely moronic cult.
He brilliantly shows the preposterous beginnings and the total moral depravity of this blight on society, and he does it in a humorous way.
When asked the direct question, “ Does Mormonism teach that God once a man?”, every Mormon I’ve met said, “Yes”.
When asked how that is possible if God created the world, the answer is always, “God has not chosen to reveal that to us.”
In other words, they know their belif is logically impossible, but can’t admit it because it would mean one of their prophets was a false prophet.
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I was taught that God did NOT create the world, but that he and his fellow gods organized it from pre-existing materials.
That’s a little (a lot) rough. Mormons are our friends, neighbors, fellow FReepers. They stand on the battle lines every day fighting for Conservative values (and frankly, they live them better than most of us.)
Sure we may have theological differences with them, but even Christians have theological differences among ourselves, many of which to this degree.
All religions look strange from the outside. A Buddhist looking at Christianity may describe it as the worship of a zombie vampire who loves us but wants to send us to hell because his love is conditional based on some apple eating incident. We are supposed to honor said zombie vampire god every week by participating in a cannibalistic ritual of eating his flesh and drinking his blood.
That makes Mormonism even more illogical, if that is possible. How could men become gods before the world was even "organized"?
This is what I too was taught as a Mormon. From their own scritures, THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM TRANSLATED FROM THE PAPYRUS, BY JOSEPH SMITH CHAPTER 4 :
The LDS church needs to drop the sci-fi theology and become more of an ordinary Christian church.
“I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it. I haven’t heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don’t know. I don’t know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don’t know a lot about it and I don’t know that others know a lot about it.”
An oily Sarget Schultz, ‘I know NOTHING, NOTHIIIINNNNGGG!’
How dare you use actual Mormon doctrine and the words of the prophets when questioning the “faith”.
That is unfair to day the least...
You should only follow and use what you are told, without question, for you are unworthy.
(does it need it, the /s tag, does it really need it at all...)
That should be “say”, not “day”, too early, no coffee yet...
(oops, gave my self away...)
That should be “say”, not “day”, too early, no coffee yet...
(oops, gave my self away...)
That'll win 'em over.
There was a historic Jesus. 27 books and 9 separate historic real life authors (8 if the apostle Paul wrote the book of Hebrews) with countless (over 500 at a single event) witnesses to Christ's actual physical resurrection. The prophecies of the purposes of Christ, his coming, his life, his death, and resurrection, and eventual return are listed throughout the Law of Moses (Torah), the Prophets, the Psalms, etc.
The comparison of Christianity to other religions is not valid since most are philosophical in nature. None of them has a founder who made the claims of Jesus Christ - that he is the Creator, the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He predicted his own death and resurrection. His life is not based on legends - all of the New Testament documents were penned within 50 years of the events surrounding his life. The adherents of the faith did not kill to evangelize but were killed and martyred because they refused to renounce what they had witnessed and experienced.
Christianity is the promise of Judaism fulfilled: that the Seed of Abraham, the Root of David, the Stem of Jesse, the One who is called the Branch would come and not only save his people Israel but would be a Light to the Gentiles. We gentiles will be forever grateful that we have had access to salvation through the nation of Israel and its Messiah!
Mark Twain, from “Roughing It”..................
All men have heard of the Mormon Bible, but few except the “elect” have seen it, or, at least, taken the trouble to read it. I brought away a copy from Salt Lake. The book is a curiosity to me, it is such a pretentious affair, and yet so “slow,” so sleepy; such an insipid mess of inspiration. It is chloroform in print. If Joseph Smith composed this book, the act was a miracle—keeping awake while he did it was, at any rate. If he, accourding to tradition, merely translated it from certain ancient and mysteriously-engraved plates of copper, which he declares he found under a stone, in an out-of-the-way locality, the work of translating was equally a miracle, for the same reason.
The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint, old-fashioned sound and structure of our King James’s translation of the Scriptures; and the result is a mongrel—half modern glibness, and half ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech growing too modern—which was about every sentence or two—he ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as “exceeding sore,” “and it came to pass,” etc., and made things satisfactory again. “And it came to pass” was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet.
Nice post. Thanks you.
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