Posted on 08/01/2008 10:34:24 AM PDT by OneVike
Global flood about 4,350 years ago. Didn't happen.
(And in your response it would save time if you didn't rely on those creationist websites; when it comes to science they tend to lie, exaggerate, misrepresent, and obfuscate.)
//Global flood about 4,350 years ago//
Where do you get that out of Scripture? You do not. There are no dates given for the Global Flood in Scripture.
“Today, we chuckle at the people of the fifteenth century who feared sailing because they thought they would fall over the edge of the flat earth. Yet the Bible revealed the truth in 1000 B.C. 2500 years before man discovered it for himself!”
I am afraid this travesty is about par for the course as far as the “scholarship” in this article. It is a myth created by Washington Irving that sailors during the time of Columbus (1492) thought the world was flat. The argument that Columbus the “poor sailor” had with the “learned heads of Europe” was not over the SHAPE of the earth, but the SIZE. Columbus for no other reason than that it would make a route to India feasible thought it was smaller. The “learned heads of Europe” used the figure of Eratosthenes, and ACCURATELY told Columbus he would never make it to India. Good thing for Columbus and us that there was a rather large continent in the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes
Eratosthenes (276-194 BC) not only knew the world was round he accurately calculated its circumference.
Sorry, you are absolutely correct. I had about 3 threads running at the time and got confused.
How can you? You reject Christianity, which is true.
You claim to believe science, but science isn't about truth at all, so you have no basis for learning about truth from there.
So just what is your source of "truth"?
There are none so blind as those who WILL not see. The Jewish aithful would not differ.
You can claim all you want that Jesus didn't fulfill prophecy but Scripture, written by faithful Jews and some others, state categorically and specifically which prophecies He did fulfill.
The Jewish faithful would not differ.
How can you? You reject Christianity, which is true.
I reject everything based on faith, Christianity, the occult, Astrology, Judaism, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, etc.
The basis of the Christian faith is the revealed word of God, in other words Prophecy. Can you produce a single precise, accurate and verifiable prophecy that has been fulfilled?
You claim to believe science, but science isn't about truth at all, so you have no basis for learning about truth from there.
What my senses show me is truth. Forgive me if when you want me to worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and can't show it to me, that I doubt your truth : )
So just what is your source of "truth"?
When I hold my wife in my arms, that is all the truth I need : ) I can feel her, smell her, hear her, in other words it is truth.
Read the Gospels. It tells you there. And that's just to start with.
What my senses show me is truth.
That's just your experience. The perception of your senses is not necessarily an accurate recording of what is really true.
True is what's true regardless of who is perceiving it. Otherwise, there would be billions of different versions of truth based on billions of different people's perceptions of reality, and that can't be.
If it was, however, as you believe, that everyone has their own version of truth, then it's just as valid as anyone else's and then no one has any right or justification, for telling someone else that they are wrong, because everybody's truth is right.
All I asked was for a nice fulfilled prophecy and you can't provide one? Needless to say I am not surprised. Didn't Christ say something to the effect that 'This generation shall not pass away before I return"? Obviously that was a false prediction. Christ was obviously a false 'god'. That is called falsification : )
True is what's true regardless of who is perceiving it. Otherwise, there would be billions of different versions of truth based on billions of different people's perceptions of reality, and that can't be.
For some odd reason I think that all of those billions agree that they don't fly off the earth. Truth is surprisingly resilient.
If it was, however, as you believe, that everyone has their own version of truth, then it's just as valid as anyone else's and then no one has any right or justification, for telling someone else that they are wrong, because everybody's truth is right.
Hmm, Force=MassxAcceleration applies to all of those billions too and every single one of them knows the truth of the principles behind the equation. It is true that some of them don't believe that F=MA applies to them but they generally become Darwin Awards candidates. Do you believe that F=MA?
Interestingly none of the fundamental truths appear in the Bible. I wonder why an omniscient God would neglect to tell his followers the fundamental laws of the universe?
Can you provide a single, clear, unambiguous prophecy that the Messiah fulfilled? Will you excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting for your answer?
In the interests of mercy and time, you can look, but you will not find a single prophecy that Christ fulfilled. When I first issued this challenge I was sure that there were hundreds of prophecies that Christ had to have fulfilled, but there are none. No one was more surprised than me at that outcome.
Well there is always this donkey-thing. But that's like my prophecy:
He who rode on a Ford through New York will become president of the U.S. ...
Precisely : ) Predicting that the Sun will rise tomorrow isn't a prophecy it is an observation. Predicting that I will die isn't a prophecy either, but predicting the day and how I will die is. Or even who will be the next President.
The desire these 'Christians' have to believe is incredible, it has got to be one of the most successful scams in history.
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