Posted on 01/15/2006 3:06:52 PM PST by SirLinksalot
I DO NOT ENDORSE THIS SITE. HOWEVER, I FIND THE ARGUMENT THEY PRESENT TO BE RELEVANT AND I AM PRESENTING IT TO YOU ( ESPECIALLY BIBLICAL CHRISTIANS ) TO SEE IF YOU CAN REFUTE THEIR ARGUMENTS BIBLICALLY ( SINCE THEY CLAIM TO GET THEIR TEACHINGS FROM THE BIBLE ).
Now that our neighbors in the North ( Canada ) have legalized same sex marriage, and their justice department is even as we speak, studying the possibility of legalizing polygamy, I think we ought to seriously consider refuting this.
Expect to find support for Polygamy coming from fringe groups who claim the mantle of Christianity and use the Bible to justify their practice ( and expect the libs to quote them approvingly ).
The webmaster of this site are The Królewiec Family, who have been living polygyny now for nearly 25 years.
According to them ....
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"We felt strongly moved by the Ruach (Spirit) to make this principle more widely known. In this they were encouraged by the Chavurat Bekorot whose desire is to prepare godly men and women in positions of leadership, as they are called by Yahweh, for theocratic government as we enter the end of the pre-millennial dispensation (or 'Pentecostal/Shavu'ot Age') and prepare for the full establishment of the millennial Israelite theocracy (or 'Tabernacles/Sukkot Age') that will immediately precede the Second Coming of the Lord Yah'shua haMashiach (Jesus Christ) -- a theocracy where, according to the Bible, polygamy will feature strongly amongst all the survivors of the end-time holocaust called the Great Tribulation (Isaiah 4:1)."
"The first stable Christian polygamous community was established in Europe in 1991 (though earlier abortive attempts were made in about 1983 & 1988), which to our knowledge is older than any of the others extant in the West, and therefore has considerable experience."
"The authors of these pages all belong to a Christian Community called the Chavurat Bekorot which translated from the Hebrew means, Assembly of the Firsborn, the "firstborn" being one of the names of the Lord Yah'shua haMashiach (Jesus Christ) (Hebrews 12:23).
"The Chavurat Bekorot is Evangelical Christian/Messianic Israelite, meaning that it accepts and implements the Bible in its totality and its Hebraic-roots. It is also a contemporary prophetic community. Its members are polygamous (a tiny minority), monogamous (the vast bulk) and single."
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In contrast to their claims that the Bible is positive towards polygamy, I have the following verse against this teaching from the Old testament book of Deuteronomy 17:14-17 :
"When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, "Let us set a king over us like all the nations around us," 15 be sure to appoint over you the king the LORD your God chooses. He must be from among your own brothers. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not a brother Israelite. 16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the LORD has told you, "You are not to go back that way again." 17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray."
I hasten to note that Fundamentalist Muslims will quickly seize on this to provide support for their arguments. It will start in Canada. See here for the details :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557721/posts
and here :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557105/posts
Since Sharia law is now recognized in Canada, I can't find a reason why Polygamy should be outlawed there. If it gets legalized there, it could simply be a matter of time before the same arguments come into these United States.
I guess they never heard about the Mormons, who practiced polygamy successfully from about 1839 to 1896....Maybe they aren't considering them Christian.
The Holy Bible is polygamous from cover to cover.>>>
Oh really?
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4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'[b]? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
7"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"
8Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
10The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."
11Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage[c]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
We have been commanded to obey our leaders. Our leaders have deemed polygamy to be illegal.
This deserves repeating: "So they are no longer two, but one."
How many wives did David have? David had eight wives, although he appears to have had children from other women as well.
1. The first one was Michal, a daughter of King Saul.
2. The second was Ahinoam of Jezreel.
3. The third was Abigail, previously wife of the evil Nabal.
4. The fourth was Maachah.
5. The fifth was Haggith.
6. The sixth was Avital.
7. The seventh was Eglah.
8. The eighth was Bathsheba.
How many wives did Solomon have? First Kings 11:1-3 indicates that King Solomon had 700 hundred wives and 300 hundred concubines.
Note to self: read later.
So
That proves that he wasn't all that smart.
As David was an ANCESTOR of Christ God and not a descendant I find your observation silly in the extreme.
None of that matters.
The Bible indicates all sorts of people had all sorts of behavior that God specifically said not to do. The point is to show that people are not perfect, not to indicate that it's Ok.
Abraham and Jacob both told people their wives were their sisters. Rebekah tricked Isaac into blessing Jacob instead of Esau. Moses killed a man. Peter denied Christ 3 times. Noah got drunk and his kids saw him naked. David had an afair with a woman and had her husband killed to cover up the afair. I could go on...
These people all did things that were against God's law. That doesn't make it Ok. It shows that they were flawed people that were still able to do great things for God's purpose despite their flaws. God constantly chose flawed, weak people to be his leaders to show that His strength and might was doing the work and not the people.
How many wives did Solomon have? First Kings 11:1-3 indicates that King Solomon had 700 hundred wives and 300 hundred concubines.>>>
And you look to this as a GOOD thing? I seem to recall that Solomon's randy behavior led directly to the division of Israel from Judea and ultimately to the conquest by the Babylonians....
I am NOT saying this is good or bad. I am saying that the Bible says that at least two (and I haven't made an exhaustive study) of the more important characters were married to more than one woman.
Just repetition of the Biblical facts for those who haven't read it.
Get as huffy as you want to. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Polygamy is not outlawed in the Bible. Ashkenazi (European) Jews outlawed polygamy about 1000 years ago, by rabbinical decree.
Sephardi (Middle-Eastern) Jews who lived in Muslim lands continued to observe polygamy up until about 60 years ago. It is prohibited by Israeli secular law, although polygamous families who immigrated from Muslim lands were allowed to stay together.
Satan-speak>: And, then that ONE takes a wife, and becomes ONE, cpomposed of one man, and two wives. /Satan-speak>
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife , and let every woman have her own husband. 1 Cor 7:7
Didn't Greek have both a singular AND a plural? Why then, is the singular used instead of the plural, if multiplicty were the intent?
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