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Did Nefertiti have 'love affair' with Moses?
Middle East Online ^ | 4/8/05 | Sophie Claudet

Posted on 04/09/2005 3:15:38 PM PDT by wagglebee

A Hollywood flick on an alleged love affair between pharaonic Queen Nefertiti and the Biblical Prophet Moses is soon to begin shooting in Egypt, renowned British producer John Heyman has revealed.

"Nefertiti married perhaps one of the first monotheists in history and the film will tell their story, which logically enough should be set in Egypt" said Heyman on a brief visit to Cairo.

"One can find in the Old Testament that Moses and Nefertiti had a relationship," he added.

The movie will also deal "with the return to the worship of the sun god," said Heyman.

He was referring to Aten - the radiant disk of the sun - whose cult was briefly re-introduced by Pharaoh Akhenaten, the 10th king of the 18th Dynasty also known as the "heretic king" for breaking with traditional religion in the 1350s BC.

The cult of Aten is considered by some experts to be a predecessor of modern monotheism.

Scholars generally agree that Nefertiti, often referred to in history as the "most beautiful woman in the world", was Akhenaten's wife.

But few have argued that Akhenaten and Moses may have been the same man, although there is no consensus on their respective dates of birth and death.

Others contend that Ramses II, the third ruler of the 19th dynasty, was in fact Moses while Jews believe the pharaoh king is responsible for their exodus from Egypt.

And founding father of psychoanalysis Sigmund Freud ventured his belief in "Moses and Monotheism", published in 1939, that Moses was in fact an Egyptian follower of Aten that brought the monotheistic doctrine out of Egypt as Judaism when he led the Israelites away from slavery to freedom some 3,300 years ago.

Ahmed Osman, on whose 1990 book "Moses and Akhenaten: The Secret History of Egypt at the Time of the Exodus" the script of Heyman's next film is based, admitted that "my argument is controversial and not widespread among many Egyptologists."

"But I have collected evidence proving that Akhenaten and Moses are the same person, which so far nobody has been able to contest," said Egypt-born Osman who has lived in London for the past 20 years where he studied Egypt's ancient history.

"Egypt's history is greatly ignored by the film industry besides 'Cleopatra' and 'The Ten Commandments' and that's it," said Heyman, referring to the two epic Hollywood blockbusters released more than 40 years ago.

The shoot "will not start before 2006 and locations will be between studios and along the Nile in Upper Egypt," he added.

Although he said it was too early to talk about the cast, Heyman said he had met "several Egyptian actors who are very good and charming, warm and kind".

British director Hugh Hudson, the acclaimed director of "Chariots of Fire", will direct the movie.

Heyman, who produced or co-financed major films such as "Chinatown", "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" and "Marathon Man", is also known for creating the Genesis project - a scholarly endeavour to put all the Hebrew and Christian scriptures on film.

He also produced "Jesus", filmed on location in Israel in Biblical settings and subsequently translated in more than 850 languages.


TOPICS: History; Judaism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: ancientegypt; archaeology; exodus; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; johnheyman; monotheism; moses; movies; nefertiti; paganism; revisionism; secularism; sigmundfreud; sunworship
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So now it appears the left is going to portray Moses as a pagan, sun-worshipping Egyptian -- this is unbelievable.
1 posted on 04/09/2005 3:15:40 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG (sort of anyway) Ping


2 posted on 04/09/2005 3:16:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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But was he gay? They need to throw in some gay stuff, if they want a Hollywood hit...


3 posted on 04/09/2005 3:19:56 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: wagglebee

Already posted and debunked...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380126/posts


4 posted on 04/09/2005 3:20:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker; Admin Moderator

Please pull this thread, the search missed it.


5 posted on 04/09/2005 3:22:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Did Nefertiti have 'love affair' with Moses?

"...Don't miss Monday night's 'Greta' where she and her panel of 'experts' will reveal the startling facts..."

6 posted on 04/09/2005 4:07:26 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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You go Moses! Nefertiti was a total babe!


7 posted on 04/09/2005 5:56:49 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: wagglebee

I liked the original Moses movie much better than this sounds.


8 posted on 04/09/2005 6:37:05 PM PDT by moog
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Hey wait... maybe the gay angle could be that Moses was really a woman, and the gay angle could be the lesbian affair with Nefertiti, or Nefretari.


9 posted on 04/09/2005 8:50:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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To: mjtobias

Like you were there.


11 posted on 04/09/2005 9:15:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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To: SunkenCiv

One needs not have been there to make an assertion such as the one I made. Just listen to the messenger of the story and you'll know it's an invention, a fable, to use a euphemism..


12 posted on 04/09/2005 9:28:02 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: mjtobias

Which messenger? I could entertain your idea if there wern't ideas that argue as stongly toward the somewhat literal view.


13 posted on 04/10/2005 8:12:36 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Swordmaker

"Don't you see a disconnect between this statement of one of the defining events that lead people to an understanding of God and your tagline?"

Is NOT that I don't see a disconnect, it's that there is no disconnect at all.

One must first distinguish between the divinity of religion and the organization of religion as a cultural/political/survival tool. As an example to the latter, organized religion gives rise to cultures, as for example Christianity gave rise to Western culture, which is to say a way of life that assures the survivability of the people comprising such a culture. Divinity of religion should not be predicated amongst and within multicultural societies, but only amongst societies that are monocultural. Ideas such as charity, compassion, forgiveness etc should be predicated only amongst one's culture and should not be freely extended to others. Other cultures, of course, can proliferate what they believe appropriate for their survival. Do you believe extending you compassion and forgiveness to members of Al Qaida or other known foes? I wouldn't. Each culture is, in essence, in a struggle for its heritage, culture, freedom and very existence. It has been so since time immemorial, and will continue to be so.

Now, naturally, those who feel threatened by the truth of my ideas, are either afraid to agree with them and, hence, will rebut them, too nincompoopish to understand its significance, or just plain enemies of Western culture.

"In hoc signo vinces."


15 posted on 04/10/2005 11:36:18 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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If you had more than a conglomeration of words, I didn't quite see it there.

The "messenger" you wrote of?....

16 posted on 04/10/2005 11:49:53 PM PDT by onedoug
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Ideas such as charity, compassion, forgiveness etc should be predicated only amongst one's culture and should not be freely extended to others.

So you disagree with Jesus. OK. I disagree with you.

As to Al Qaida and other enemies... I will extend compassion and forgiveness when they repent of their actions. In the meantime, I will defend myself and my country... and my culture... from them.

SunkenCiv asked you who the messengers were that indicate to you the falseness of Moses and the Old Testament. I ask you the same question... although I suspect I know the answer. Who are the messengers whose messages are not to be trusted?

17 posted on 04/10/2005 11:51:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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"I will extend compassion and forgiveness when they repent of their actions."

This is analogous to a man killing another man and the killer then says, "I'm sorry." I don't think I can forgive the killer. Oftentimes, the wrongdoer, asks for forgiveness w/o the contrition.

"In the meantime, I will defend myself and my country... and my culture... from them."

I agree with that.


18 posted on 04/10/2005 11:58:29 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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"Oftentimes, the wrongdoer, asks for forgiveness w/o the contrition."

Though what of contrition, but to God? It's impossible for a murderer to seek the forgiveness of society. So what?

19 posted on 04/11/2005 12:13:11 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Swordmaker

some past shows on Disc channel mentioned:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/895954/posts?page=10#10


20 posted on 04/11/2005 8:18:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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