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Bye, Bye Beringia (8,000 Year Old Site In Florida)
Explore North ^ | 8-12-2003 | Bill Jones

Posted on 08/11/2003 7:26:47 PM PDT by blam

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IMO, skeletons, in the Americas, that are older than 6,000 years old should be classified as Paleo-American instead of Paleo-Indian. There are no American Indian/Native Americans (as we know then today) skeletons ever found in the Americas that are older than 6,000 year old, previous to this date, the people were someone else.
1 posted on 08/11/2003 7:26:47 PM PDT by blam
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To: shamusotoole; farmfriend; RightWhale
I was directed to this article by FReeper Shamusotoole, enjoy.
2 posted on 08/11/2003 7:28:11 PM PDT by blam
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Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

3 posted on 08/11/2003 7:29:52 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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Bulldoze it, out with the old, in with the new!
4 posted on 08/11/2003 7:36:33 PM PDT by xrp
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"Bulldoze it, out with the old, in with the new!"

I believe there are apartment houses presently sitting on the site.

5 posted on 08/11/2003 7:44:57 PM PDT by blam
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The Windover Archaeological Research Project
6 posted on 08/11/2003 7:48:42 PM PDT by blam
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Bottom line: Why can't we leave leave p.c. out of this? Why can't we just search for the truth?

It's pretty obvious now, modern man has totally underestimated early man. But we remain so sactimonious. That's down right silly.
7 posted on 08/11/2003 8:02:38 PM PDT by lizma
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Their primary job -- filling their stomachs -- took only about two hours each day, leaving plenty of time for making jewelry from bones and seeds or weaving clothing from the leaves of sabal palm.

Hm, add in a couple of sessions of Hip-Hop and 8,000 years doesn't sound like very long at all.

8 posted on 08/11/2003 8:08:14 PM PDT by Old Professer
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This looks like Doran's FSU web site on the Windover dig. It looks like he is working with the Japanese and comparing these skeletons to the Jomons of Japan

Research At Windover

"Osteologists look at metric and nonmetric features of skeletal material from different groups and use this information to attempt to understand population similarities and differences within an evolutionary and adaptive framework. The search for other early (pre-6000 BP year old samples) has led Doran to Japan which also has substantial collections of early human skeletal material.Ê "


9 posted on 08/11/2003 8:18:19 PM PDT by blam
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10 posted on 08/11/2003 8:29:34 PM PDT by blam
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11 posted on 08/11/2003 8:33:43 PM PDT by blam
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Good article, Blam. That's the advantage of a burial site with little oxygen!

Coast of California has material that old and older, but so far no single cemetery of this magnitude. But, our oldest individual is a pretty-well confirmed 13,400 years (several lines of evidence). No DNA yet, but they are still trying.

The theory which is emerging supports a coastal migration to get around the glaciers in Alaska and Canada, followed much later by the ice-free corridor. It may have been closed or with little vegetation ca. 24,000 - 12,000 years ago or so.

Of course, the coastal migration followed the coast, and DNA from Bella Coola to Chumash (near Alaska to southern California) looks like it is supporting the theory.

12 posted on 08/11/2003 8:49:41 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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"Coast of California has material that old and older, but so far no single cemetery of this magnitude. But, our oldest individual is a pretty-well confirmed 13,400 years (several lines of evidence). No DNA yet, but they are still trying."

Yup. That would be Arlington Springs Woman, I don't think they'll find DNA from this woman.

13 posted on 08/11/2003 8:56:55 PM PDT by blam
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"Of course, the coastal migration followed the coast, and DNA from Bella Coola to Chumash (near Alaska to southern California) looks like it is supporting the theory."

That is the popular theory at present. The same seems to be shaping up for the Atlantic coast also, The tools being found at the Topper and Cactus Hill sites in Pennsylvania and South Carolina are consistent with tools from the Iberian Area for the same period, 12-20,000 years ago.

...and then, we have the Australians shoving in down in South America, First Americans Were Australians

Time will tell.

14 posted on 08/11/2003 9:14:04 PM PDT by blam
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The First Americans
15 posted on 08/11/2003 9:18:21 PM PDT by blam
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oooo, please add me! thanks!
16 posted on 08/11/2003 9:19:33 PM PDT by ellery
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To: lizma
Bottom line: Why can't we leave leave p.c. out of this? Why can't we just search for the truth?

It's pretty obvious now, modern man has totally underestimated early man. But we remain so sactimonious. That's down right silly.

Sanctity has nothing to do with it. Follow the money, my friend, follow the money.

17 posted on 08/11/2003 9:21:51 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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I've decided the reason this site hasn't gotten the attention that was afforded with 'The Iceman' and Kennewick Man is because Doran (the archaeologist) hasn't put a 'face' on these people.
He should choose a female, male and some children skulls and have someone reconstruct their faces. Shoot, he could call them The Windover Family. That would picque popular interest.
18 posted on 08/11/2003 9:31:07 PM PDT by blam
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please add me!

Will do. And you are welcome.

19 posted on 08/11/2003 9:53:14 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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Images Of Ancient America
20 posted on 08/12/2003 7:13:15 AM PDT by blam
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