PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]

NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

[Luis Gonzalez]

Me 2.

[justshe]

'Tis a promise.

[Howlin]

Yes, it was. And I noticed that someone who still has an account here has now called Jim a nasty name. Too bad she doesn't have the guts to say it to his face.

[Jim Robinson]

I think if the baby ends up dead in the hands of a partial birth abortionist, he's gonna have some real problems, no matter how cleverly he twists and turns it. Of course, that depends on the determination of the prosecutor.

[jjbrouwer]

While living in Britain, I once voted for the Monster Raving Loony Party...and they got a landslide.

Hey, there's a new tagline for you!

[MS.BEHAVIN]

You had no way of knowing..

Please don't blame yourself..

Luis, if it saves a little one, my pain and discomfort is of no consequence..it all happened a long time ago..

What amazes me about my situation, is that when I hear a baby cry, it still makes my insides ache..

even after all this time..

I hope anyone considering abortion will remember what I say, and if you like, you may quote me from this post..

As always, my best to you...

Ms.B

[Jim Robinson]

Hmmmm... I doubt I'd be concerned about people calling me nasty names. My mailbox is full of it everyday. In fact, I've called a few people nasty names myself. Live and let live is my motto.

[Sabertooth]

I think if the baby ends up dead in the hands of a partial birth abortionist, he's gonna have some real problems, no matter how cleverly he twists and turns it. Of course, that depends on the determination of the prosecutor.

It's also going to depend on the wishes, and understanding, of the egg-donor.

How's she gonna know if the baby was fully crowned? Is she really going to press the issue, if she wanted a PBA anyway?

Without her, how does a prosecutor make the case?

[CWOJackson]

Isn't that the English wing of the libertarian party?

[Mo1]

What amazes me about my situation, is that when I hear a baby cry, it still makes my insides ache..

{{HUGS}}

[nunya bidness]

Would there not also be other people in the room .. like a nurse or two?

Probably but are they objective witnesses?

Would that have been a better scenario for you?

I'm happy you asked. A better scenario for me would be eliminating all late term abortions.

Which would you prefer?

Another logical fallacy. There's another choice. Criminalizing all late term abortions at the outset. Remember that the Republicans control both the House and the Senate. It's called leadership and this limp-wristed legislation does not speak from leadership. It speaks from a communitarian philosophy that is both feckless and ineffective.

If this is the best that Santorum and others can foist up on the hill than they should stick to fundraising. No definitive, demonstrable declarations equals equivocation and politics as usual.

Same as it ever was.

But I'll still support Libertarians For Life because they have their eye on the ball.

[jjbrouwer]

Do we have one of those too...?

[Mo1]

I'm happy you asked. A better scenario for me would be eliminating all late term abortions.

So you prefer all or nothing?

[onyx]

Is this gang-up on Luis night? I'm reading this thread and thinking ya-all sound like blue hairs.

[Howlin]

I have questioned him on whether he believes that once a woman becomes pregnant, her life becomes secondary to the life of the fetus to the point where a PBA should not be performed, even if going through the pregnancy means a heightened risk of death to the mother.

Did you ever get an answer to that, Luis?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"I'm happy you asked. A better scenario for me would be eliminating all late term abortions."

But that was never what the authors of this bill proposed to do, it was never promised that this bill would ban all late term abortions.

This bill however, gives you the incremental step to proceed towards that goal.

Quit trying to try the trial before the jury is seated or the accused has been accused.

By the way...what bills that have stopped any abortions at all have Libertarians for Life enacted into law lately...or ever?

It would be only fair to give me the ability to dissect those laws as you have dissected this one.

Or have your victories against abortionists all theoretical?

[CWOJackson]

Just out of curiosity, how does having your eye on the ball contribute anything to ending abortion without a single representative at the national or any state level?

[Jim Robinson]

Well, if this bill becomes law, it will get interesting. I think there will plenty of opportunity to catch these guys seeing as how they're doing it openly. And if they go underground, we may even see some racketeering and conspiracy charges coming. Could be a major setback to the abortion industry.

[fatima]

MS.BEHAVIN,My Daughter lost 2 Children,very hard. ,Much love,fatima

[MS.BEHAVIN]

Thanks mo1..

only a Mom would understand..

{{{{mo1}}}

and love...

Ms.B