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LONG AFTER FADING AWAY, A FORGOTTEN MARINE REEMERGES
Boston Globe ^ | May 11, 03 | Benjamin Gadin

Posted on 05/17/2003 4:34:01 AM PDT by gunnyg

LONG AFTER FADING AWAY, A FORGOTTEN MARINE REEMERGES

Author(s): Benjamin Gedan, GLOBE CORRESPONDENT Date: May 11, 2003 Page: 13 Section: City Weekly

Omitted from the bronze Marine Corps War Memorial in Washington, uncelebrated in World War II history texts, and long unrecognized in his hometown, former US Marine Sergeant Henry O. Hansen will be memorialized this summer with the construction of a public garden, 58 years after he helped raise the first American flag on Iwo Jima in 1945.

A triangular vacant lot on Medford Street outside Somerville's Magoun Square will house a community garden, monument, and seating area to honor the unsung veteran, marking the end of eight years of sporadic lobbying. Hansen, who later died in the fighting, is the only original flag-raiser without a memorial in his hometown, city officials said.

"They never got recognition," James G. O'Connor, director of Somerville's Veterans' Services Department, said last week. "It's been overlooked."

Planning for the park is in the earliest stages, though further along than fund-raising for the $100,000 project.

The city's Conservation Commission has not yet designed the monument, received private donations, or identified possible grant funds.

City officials have pledged no public money to the project, and plans to post a temporary sign describing the initiative have been delayed, said Anne Phelps, Conservation Commission director.

A $10,000 pledge from CVS, however, has given organizers a renewed sense of mission, providing the "driving force" behind the long-promised memorial, said Michael Fager, who is coordinating the project for the Conservation Commission.

The funds will not be donated until a new CVS store opens in the fall, said Gerald Cohen, president of SF Properties Inc., which helped negotiate the gift as part of a CVS development project in Magoun Square.

Despite the slow start and sour economy, however, organizers said they were optimistic about the prospects for additional fund-raising.

The war in Iraq could spark renewed appreciation for veterans of World War II, Fager said, adding that local World War II veterans and their relatives need no reminder of soldiers' sacrifices in the European and Pacific campaigns.

"This particular event was, for the history of World War II, so important. People don't want to forget," he said of the flag-raising on Iwo Jima's Mount Suribachi. "We have just finished a war, and we are reflecting on what it means."

On Feb. 23, 1945, after intense fighting, Marines from Company E, 2d Battalion reached the summit of Mount Suribachi.

Under fire, six Marines, including Hansen, secured a small American flag to a 20-foot section of Japanese iron pipe and hoisted the Stars and Stripes, according to documents in the Marine Corps University Research Archives and the Naval Historical Center.

When resistance ceased, five other Marines replaced the original flag with a larger one, and the event was immortalized in a photograph by Joe Rosenthal, which served as the model for the Washington, D.C., monument.

The second flag-raisers achieved instant hero status, and have been celebrated on websites and in countless photographic reproductions of the event.

As Somerville officials outline plans to open the city's seventh public garden, with a wrought iron fence, irrigation pipes, and perennials, officials said the time to honor the local, original flag-raiser has finally arrived.

"If you say `the flag-raising,' you see the huge monument in Washington of the second flag-raising," O'Connor said, lamenting the lack of a city memorial. "Hopefully, something will happen."

Benjamin Gedan can be reached at gedan@globe.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; flagraising; history; iwojima; marinecorps; marinecorpshistory; marines; tribute; usmc; veterans; wwii
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'Bout time--is this enough?

R.W. "Dick" Gaines, GySgt USMC (Ret.)
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1 posted on 05/17/2003 4:34:01 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg

Mt. Suribachi, Iwo Jima

2 posted on 05/17/2003 4:37:31 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ...
Semper Fi Bump
3 posted on 05/17/2003 4:38:47 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: gunnyg
The Three Flag Raisers of Mount Suribachi
4 posted on 05/17/2003 4:41:02 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg
Semper Fi, Gunny!

Thank you for your service.
5 posted on 05/17/2003 4:47:57 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: gunnyg
Semper Fi    bump
6 posted on 05/17/2003 5:08:06 AM PDT by fnord ( Hyprocisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue)
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To: gunnyg
When resistance ceased, five other Marines replaced the original flag with a larger one

When resistance ceased? What a load of revisionist crap. Tell the families of Block, Genaust, Sousley, Strank, et al who were later KIA on Iwo, that resistance ceased.

five other Marines? Five Marines and a Navy Corpsman. Did Benjamin Gedan and Jayson Blair graduate from the same journalism school?

7 posted on 05/17/2003 5:12:24 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Ping!
8 posted on 05/17/2003 5:27:11 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: M Kehoe
Marine FYI.
9 posted on 05/17/2003 5:27:17 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: Molly Pitcher
Good morning! Thanks for the ping. I guess it's better late than never.

You do remember I'm Army, right?

5.56mm

10 posted on 05/17/2003 5:36:21 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
NO! I thought you were...never mind...I've had a bad spring, but not offering any excuses:-)
11 posted on 05/17/2003 5:52:59 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: ken5050; M Kehoe
Now I got it right!
12 posted on 05/17/2003 5:53:36 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Is Reality Optional?)
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To: gunnyg
Note:
Ray Jacobs, the radioman seen in Lowery's photos of the Lt Schrier's 40-man patrol up Suribachi, is alive and well, and has been receptive to e-mail from those interested in this story. Chuck Lindberg, also a survivor of the original patrol, is also alive and well, but to the best of my knowledge, is not on the 'Net.

Re the actual flag raising--I would suggest 3 books for the best documentation--Tedd Thomey's "Immortal Images:" Albee's "Shadow of Suribachi"; and, Marling/Wetenhall's "Iwo Jima"--for those few who desire the straight scoop and in the best available detail...

DickG

13 posted on 05/17/2003 6:22:42 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg
Marine Corps Legends. A bit off topic but worth retelling.

“Retreat, Hell. We just got here.”

Fighting spirit and determination against heavy odds is a sound tradition in the Marine Corps and nowhere is there a more graphic illustration than an incident which occurred in World War I. Legendary or true, it personifies the aggressive attitude of Marines.
The occasion was the third great German breakthrough of 1918, when the 4th Marine Brigade and its parent 2d Infantry Division were thrown in to help stem the tide in the Belleau wood sector. The 2d Battalion, 5th Marines, had just arrived at its position when an automobile skidded to a stop and a French officer dashed out and approached the commanding officer. He explained that a general retreat was in progress and that orders were for the Marines to withdraw. The Marine officer exclaimed in amazement, “Retreat Hell! We just got here.”
And the Marines proceeded to prove their point. The battalion deployed and took up firing positions. As the Germans approached, they came under rifle fire which was accurate at ranges beyond their comprehension. Not in vain had the Marine Corps long stressed in its training the sound principles of marksmanship. The deadly fire took the heart out of the German troops and the attack was stopped.

From - www.grunts.com
14 posted on 05/17/2003 7:48:48 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: gunnyg
Hey Gunny!

Do you know which of the gents in this picture is the unfortunate Sgt. Hanson? If so, please tell us.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
15 posted on 05/17/2003 7:53:59 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Army guy in solidarity with you.)
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To: gunnyg
Or how about this:

Master Gunnery Sergeant George E. Wilson USMC 1944-1971

He fulfilled his duty to America in Saipan, Tinian, Okinawa, China, Japan, Lebanon, and Viet Nam. He died in March and is our own special Marine hero. He also was one of four Marines that founded the Toys for Tots program that is still up and running. Semper Fi George!

16 posted on 05/17/2003 8:01:51 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Sgt Hanson is shown in the left of Lowery's pic (w/o helmet) wearing utility/dungaree/gung ho/ cap. behind him w/radio on his back, is Pfc Ray Jacobs.

Incidentally, Hanson was originally named as being in Rosenthal's pic also; he was removed from the list of "replacemnbet" flag raisers (a year or so after the fact) in favor of another Marine now presently considered the correcectly identified Marine in the photo--for an eye-opener on how this came about see Marling's book...

DickG

17 posted on 05/17/2003 8:03:30 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: sergeantdave
Hey sergeantdave--your post indicates to me that this may also interest you...Here!

DickG

18 posted on 05/17/2003 8:11:45 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg
Srmper Fi Gunny. Great catch!

Heros = ordinary men in extraordinary circumstance while at death's doorstep. These warriors fit the bill!

And bring PRIDE to MY Marine Corps! OohhRah~!!
19 posted on 05/17/2003 10:32:21 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: gunnyg
bttt
20 posted on 05/17/2003 11:42:15 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: gunnyg; LadyX
Thank you for your service Gunny! Interesting read.
21 posted on 05/17/2003 12:17:29 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: gunnyg
Thanx Gunny.....Semper Fi !
22 posted on 05/17/2003 12:33:13 PM PDT by stylin19a (2 wrongs don't make a right.....but 3 rights make a left)
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To: gunnyg
Is that a picture of the first flag raising?
23 posted on 05/17/2003 1:26:52 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: sergeantdave
an automobile skidded to a stop and a French officer dashed out and approached the commanding officer. He explained that a general retreat was in progress and that orders were for the Marines to withdraw.

It would be a Frog!

24 posted on 05/17/2003 1:29:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Yep, SuziQ--the photo is of THE Iwo Flag Raising by S/Sgt Lou Lowery of Leatherneck magazine at about 1020, on the morning of 23Feb1945.

Lowery shot numerous shot of both the flag raising itself, as well as the patrol as it ascended Suribachi, and also a few more after the flag was raised.

The "replacement" flag was substituted as the original was simultaneously lowered, later that day, and Lt Schrier was still commanding the hill and supervised this.

DickG

25 posted on 05/17/2003 2:54:48 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: CARepubGal; gunnyg; JoeSixPack1; RaceBannon; Dubya; Teacup; g'nad; martin_fierro; HiJinx; Trish; ...
Thanks for the hail here, CARepubGal.

One of the highlights of my life was at the Dedication Ceremony of the Iwo Jima Monument on the Parade Deck at Parris Island.
Every dime for the monument was contributed by Marines.

Women Marines in 1952 were separate from the men, so in the ceremony we were "A" Company of the eight full companies.
It was the greatest buildup of The Corps in its history.

It was my privilege to be Guidon Bearer out front of the parade with the "A" Company Commander, proudly carrying the American Flag and going Front & Center to salute the Reviewing Officers with the other seven Guidon Bearers.

For those who were at Parris Island, you know that if there is a parade, the wind will come!
No slight feat for a 118-lb. gal to hold steady the staff held straight out during the interminably long National Long Anthem.
I'd have dropped dead before I'd let it waver, of course.

The Drill Instructor who'd trained me took bets on the sideline from males who questioned my ability to perform it to perfection..:))
It was my privilege to be a Classroom Subjects Instructor for women recruits during the Korean Conflict, and participated in all inspections and ceremonies as Right Guide for Company "A" while I was stationed there.

This is a picture of me 50 years later, taking my grandson there a year ago - - -


26 posted on 05/17/2003 3:41:23 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: LadyX
My brother was a Marine DI, properly speaking, IS and will always be a Marine. The Marines are an inspiration to everyone.

The second raising is an awesome photograph. It captures the action so well that I always stare at the monument. It seems to be alive. I saw it as a boy and later as a young father. I wonder if the power of the photograph has overwhelmed the memory of the nation. It is a great symbol of the entire action.

I have trouble with isolating one group or another as the heroes of Iwo Jima. They were all heroes, from logistics and Naval artillery to the men fighting on the ground.
27 posted on 05/17/2003 4:01:17 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the poorest of the poor - the unborn.)
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To: LadyX
That is a great story and picture. And what a great thing to share with your grandson! I figured you would enjoy the article.
28 posted on 05/17/2003 6:32:54 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal
Thank you so much.
Kyle will be a high school senior this coming year and is in his third year of Jr. ROTC.
In another week, he will go to Fort Jackson, in Columbia, for a week of Leadership School, and on the 31st, I'll be going to watch him in a year-end ceremony at Dutch Fork High School.

The recruiters are already after him to go into service next year, scoring highly on his tests, and I've an idea he will go where he can get the most college education on the side.

One of my sons was in the Army and his son is in the Air Force, in Communications, going on five years now.

29 posted on 05/17/2003 7:08:13 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: gunnyg
Howdy, Gunny! How ya doin', Brother!

Bumpin' this fer my Marine Corps.

Semper Fi, Mac.

Never forget.

( BTW, GunnyG is the Marine to ask about damn near anything related to Marine Corps history! He's good people. He'll steer ya right.)
30 posted on 05/17/2003 10:30:59 PM PDT by wrbones (Bones)
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To: LadyX
Thank you for sharing this with us all.
31 posted on 05/18/2003 6:17:23 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: LadyX
Good morning, Firefly...thanks for pinging me to this story about the forgotten Marine, and for reminding me of your presence at the dedication of the Memorial...a wonderful image, just barely out of reach...you in uniform holding the Guidon.
32 posted on 05/18/2003 7:57:22 AM PDT by jwfiv
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To: LadyX
Semper Fi
33 posted on 05/18/2003 4:08:55 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: jwfiv; Mixer; Dubya; RaceBannon; ExSoldier; martin_fierro; MeeknMing; CHIEF negotiator; ...
The most amazing thing was when I went back last year for Kyle to see the ceremony where Lima Company received their globe and anchor emblems, and could be called Marines.
It was as if I had never left there.

From the moment I cleared the gate, the old adrenalin kicked in - the posture straightened; the spring in the step returned and the steady, ground-eating stride was back in gear!

Within an hour, then 16-year old Kyle, in great shape and a weight-lifter, was literally begging me to slow down, and totally worn out by afternoon!
I could have kept going 24/7.

Lima Company was practicing that morning, and when I sent Kyle back to get more film from the car, I went into the Reviewing Stand (now a permanent covered one) and chatted with the Lima Company Commander, who was observing while the NCO's put the six platoons through their paces.

The remarkable thing about Corps is the wonderful respect shown everyone fore and aft of you, and Captain Torres honored me with conversation for a good 20 minutes before practice ended.

Things had changed dramatically since my not air-conditioned old wooden barracks days, but the Corps Spirit was stronger than ever - - - I could almost hear the planes taking off with boys I knew going to Korea to combat - - -

Thanking God this day for all those experiences, and His guiding hand in my life.....

34 posted on 05/18/2003 7:52:45 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: LadyX
I was just browsing the latest post titles, and noticed your flag. I do not think Chief negotiator can hear you...
35 posted on 05/18/2003 7:54:34 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep; TexasCowboy
"I was just browsing the latest post titles, and noticed your flag. I do not think Chief negotiator can hear you..."

Don't be too sure about that.

Could be he has been welcoming Marines aboard through the Pearly Gates....he was a friend to many of us and we do not forget, no matter what the circumstances.....

I knew him way back in 1998 and through The Freeper Island Adventures and The Sea Sagas.
I will honor him as I see fit.

36 posted on 05/18/2003 8:11:11 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: sit-rep; LadyX; CHIEF negotiator
"I do not think Chief negotiator can hear you..."

And you are dead wrong!

CHIEF never missed a Gyrene thread, and he's not missing this one.

Old Marines never die.
They live on in the hearts and minds of those who earn their globe and anchor just like they did!


37 posted on 05/18/2003 8:16:59 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TexasCowboy
You've got that right!

Semper Fi....from an Army man.
38 posted on 05/18/2003 8:21:35 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: TexasCowboy; Fred Mertz
Thanks, guys - - now if we just knew how ofMagog is, everything would be all right - - -

Still laugh over your 'doctoring' after the little mishap at sea, Fred..:))

39 posted on 05/18/2003 8:32:26 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: LadyX; ofMagog; Pippin
Where is our Cap'n?

I've been busy, but I've been missing him.
40 posted on 05/18/2003 8:34:22 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: LadyX; gunnyg; CHIEF negotiator; Fred Mertz
I've long ago gave up trying to figure out why, but the sight of our Marine Corps flag or the sound of cadence or our Marine Corps Hymn makes my back straighter and my walk firmer.

I was worried about the new breed of Marines on the eve of this latest conflict.
I had no reason for concern.
They've made me proud.

41 posted on 05/18/2003 8:39:16 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Fred Mertz
Sadly, Fred, in December his beloved wife, Mags, succumbed to emphysema, and in January he and his daughters scattered her ashes at sea, per her wishes.

Not long after, he wrote several of us to not address posts to him, as he was 'going for medical treatment.'

To my knowledge, no one has heard from him or his daughters since.

42 posted on 05/18/2003 8:42:17 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: TexasCowboy
Might have to play my cadence calling tapes so I can go to sleep tonight..:))
43 posted on 05/18/2003 8:45:48 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: LadyX; ofMagog
I received a freep-mail in Feb '03 from the Cap'n.

From ofMagog | 02/13/2003 6:04 PM EST

He's still out there, I'm certain.

44 posted on 05/18/2003 8:53:44 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I had mail the end of February, too, Fred.

In March, however, I accidentally hailed him with an Old Ping List, and received this from his daughter:

Re: A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day...03-04-03...It's Mardi Gras!!!!
From ofMagog | 03/05/2003 7:52 AM EST read

Dad's condition is being evaluated. We ask AGAIN that all posts or FR mail be put on hold for now.

PLEASE

thanks

======================================================

Nothing since......

45 posted on 05/18/2003 9:07:55 PM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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To: LadyX; sit-rep; TexasCowboy; CHIEF negotiator
Thanks for the ping.

Sorry Marine -- You're Too Old

46 posted on 05/19/2003 2:21:06 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: LadyX
I will honor him as I see fit

I did not know you knew him. Just thought I would let you know. Obviously you know, so carry on...

47 posted on 05/19/2003 2:27:52 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: TexasCowboy
OUTSTANDING!

.......do more with less, a less that is either old or an army hand-me-down?

My first issue of 782 gear was so moth ridden i thought it was just recycled boot camp stuff. Then I found out it was newly issued "old army gear"!!

Semper Fi, We ROCK! :-)

49 posted on 05/20/2003 8:45:26 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: TexasCowboy; JoeSixPack1; Scuttlebutt
Received that from Trish, too, TC, and thoroughly enjoyed it!
Will recycle it to a few old friends who served in The Corps and the navy..:))

Perhaps I should post the other mail she sent for a laugh this day:

A WOMAN'S PRAYER

Dear Lord I pray
For wisdom to understand my man
Love to forgive him
Patience for his moods

Because Lord if I pray for Strength
I'll beat him to death

Amen

Double Amen!!

50 posted on 05/20/2003 9:00:53 AM PDT by LadyX (((( God's Love and Mercy and Grace are without limit - - ))))
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