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Blow to Neanderthal breeding theory
BBC ^ | Tuesday, 13 May, 2003

Posted on 05/13/2003 9:22:35 AM PDT by presidio9

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To: Right Wing Professor
Suppose Cro-Magnon men didn't fancy Neanderthal women, on account of them looking like the sisters of Dourass, but Neanderthal men liked Cro-Magnon women?

Also, I don't think there was a heck of a lot of courtship going on back then, and a cro-magnon man may not have been able to overpower a neandertal woman.

41 posted on 05/13/2003 10:05:47 AM PDT by presidio9 (Homophobic and Proud!!!)
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To: newgeezer
We all know that all of those "missing links" were made from things like pig bones.
42 posted on 05/13/2003 10:06:21 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: gcruse
The skull gets larger.
43 posted on 05/13/2003 10:07:53 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank
Neanderthal bones were bigger, a sign of old age in humans? My shrinking granny doesn't think so.
44 posted on 05/13/2003 10:14:44 AM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: gcruse
--The older we get, the heavier our bone mass
becomes. Except that it doesn't.--

Well, not in THIS age...

45 posted on 05/13/2003 10:16:02 AM PDT by Not Insane
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To: gcruse
the chins, jaw and eyebrows get bigger
46 posted on 05/13/2003 10:17:14 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: maro
Wouldn't a son or grandson of such a union have a fancy for Neanderthal women?

Maybe not. Maybe both Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon men liked Cro-Magnon women.

47 posted on 05/13/2003 10:20:04 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: gcruse
Whoa there, freeze frame, let's back up a bit, shall we?

The reason I did that, is because Creationists are going to play their game here.

This article was about 1 experiment, and they will go into generalities about how with 1 experiment we KNOW this is true, where that is NOT at all what was said.

It said indicates, which is the PROPER scientific term for answers from 1 experiment
48 posted on 05/13/2003 10:21:48 AM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: fishtank
The fact that the DNA is different kind of throws a monkeywrench in that theory. OTOH, the pre-flood world was different in ways of which we are not yet aware. The model is not complete.

One things apparent: The rules were different.
49 posted on 05/13/2003 10:21:57 AM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Right Wing Professor
"Suppose Cro-Magnon men didn't fancy Neanderthal women, on account of them looking like the sisters of Dourass, but Neanderthal men liked Cro-Magnon women? I don't think that scenario's at all unlikely."

OK, so do you explain Helen Thomas?

(I know, it doesn't quite go together, but I thought saying "Helen Thomas" on this thread would get a laugh. I think your theory has merit. . . .and then the female offspring of the N-men/CM-women might not be so ugly as to discourage ALL CM men.


"the sisters of Dourass" ???

50 posted on 05/13/2003 10:24:04 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: mewzilla
If the DNA differences between the Neanderthal sample and the reference sample are significant, you may not need very many more to prove the point. Afterall, the DNA sequence diversion between humans and chimps is about 4.8% (R.J. Britton, 2002, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences). A geneticist would pick that up in one sample.

Admittedly, a larger sample would lend greater credibility to the finding.

51 posted on 05/13/2003 10:24:33 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: Not Insane
Well, not in THIS age...

Hup!!  Bingo, you've nailed it.
This time, it's different.
52 posted on 05/13/2003 10:26:11 AM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: presidio9
YEC doubts
53 posted on 05/13/2003 10:27:15 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Right Wing Professor
"Suppose Cro-Magnon men didn't fancy Neanderthal women, on account of them looking like the sisters of Dourass ..."

Everbody knows that (after "The Original Series"), Klingon skulls were modeled after "Zinjanthropus", not "Neanderthalensis"!!

54 posted on 05/13/2003 10:29:12 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: presidio9
A skeleton uncovered in Portugal appeared to show both Neanderthal and human features.

They've just found Pat Ewing.

55 posted on 05/13/2003 10:29:55 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: Snowy
My eyes! My eyes!
Oh! The pain!!
56 posted on 05/13/2003 10:34:22 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: Right Wing Professor
Or maybe male Neanderthal's only liked other Neanderthal males and the Neanderthal women only liked Neanderthal women.... could be the reason they died out, too.
57 posted on 05/13/2003 10:37:28 AM PDT by bigcheese (Matrix Reloaded: May 15th)
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To: Right Wing Professor
What it says is that Neanderthal women didn't contribute to the gene pool.

Evidently they had not yet invented beer brewing at that time.

58 posted on 05/13/2003 10:39:22 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: TheWillardHotel
"Oh, but the neanderthals are not gone.... no they now live in California."

Go down to the beach in Southern California and look for the guys with a heavy brow ridge, hairy backs, and no chins (brow ridge and lack of protruding chin are diagnostic features for Neanderthal skulls). You won't find any women with hairy backs at the beach - they are off riding their motorcycles.

59 posted on 05/13/2003 10:40:56 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: mewzilla
This could be proved easily by taking blood from Tom Dashole. Since he is a cross between Cro-Magnum and Neanderthal all of the DNA should match and it would also lead credibility to the idea that democrats are behind in evolution.
60 posted on 05/13/2003 10:41:39 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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