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US and Britain give Saddam just 48 hours to leave Iraq
telegraph.co.uk ^ | February 9, 2003 | By Julian Coman in Washington and Colin Brown

Posted on 02/09/2003 5:18:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

US and Britain give Saddam just 48 hours to leave Iraq
By Julian Coman in Washington and Colin Brown
(Filed: 09/02/2003)

Britain and America are drawing up plans to give Saddam Hussein as little as 48 hours to flee Baghdad or face war, if UN weapons inspectors report this week that the Iraqi dictator is still refusing to disarm fully.

The proposals will form the framework of a long-awaited second resolution, which could be put before the Security Council by next weekend.

The deadline would be just long enough for Arab neighbours to make a last effort to persuade Saddam to leave the country, according to US officials, or for a coup to take place. The shortest timeframe to emerge from private diplomatic discussions has been two days.

The phrasing of the new, deliberately concise UN resolution would deny Saddam a fresh chance to say that he will comply with Security Council demands. Britain will put forward the resolution because Washington "does not want to be seen to need it", according to a senior Security Council diplomat.

Foreign Office officials confirmed that Saudi Arabia has offered to take Saddam if he goes into exile. Last month Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, said he would be "delighted" if Saddam fled Iraq.

"To avoid a war, I would personally recommend that some provision be made so that the senior leadership and their families could be provided haven in some other country," he said.

To be passed, the new resolution would require the support of nine of the 15 Security Council members, assuming there was no veto from France, China or Russia. British and American officials last night made clear that they do not expect a unanimous vote in its favour but are confident that a veto can be avoided.

"The resolution being discussed would declare that Saddam is in material breach of UN resolutions, which authorises the use of all necessary means to disarm him," one senior Security Council diplomat said.

America and Britain are, however, determined to avoid a second resolution which would enable Saddam further to delay disarmament. "The last thing they want is a decision which just starts the process towards another decision," said the diplomat.

France, Germany, Russia and China favour giving inspectors more time, raising the possibility of a showdown on Friday, when the Security Council meets to hear the latest report from Hans Blix, the chief weapons inspector.

Germany and France confirmed yesterday that they are working on plans for a solution that involves sending UN peacekeeping troops to support inspectors in Iraq.

Dr Blix is holding talks with senior Iraqi officials in Baghdad this weekend. While his inspectors have now been granted private access to a number of Iraqi scientists, one of their prime targets - the English-trained woman who used to run Saddam's lethal biological weapons programme - said that she will refuse to talk to them.

In an exclusive interview to be broadcast on BBC1's Panorama at 10.30 tonight, Rihab Taha, who studied at the University of East Anglia and is known as "Dr Germ", said that she does not trust the inspectors.

"It is a human right that if you don't want to speak to anyone, no one will oblige you or force you." Speaking of her work on biological weapons, Dr Taha added: "It is our right to have a capability to defend ourselves and to have something as a deterrent."

Despite the Franco-German initiatives, Britain insists that Iraq has had enough last chances. "It's a question of timing as to when you reach that point of last resort," said Sir Jeremy Greenstock, the British ambassador to the UN.

"We've reached it. It's 600 weeks since we started the business of asking Iraq to disarm. And now it's time to cut the knot and take action."

Getting a second UN resolution is crucial for Tony Blair. The Prime Minister will urge his party to back him at Labour's spring conference in Glasgow next Sunday, the day after mass anti-war rallies there and in London.

He is, however, facing, a serious rebellion. One official said: "We are getting in a huge amount of motions opposing the war." One constituency Labour Party has voted to stop campaigning for the local elections in May unless the Prime Minister secures a second resolution.


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KEYWORDS: bubyesaddam; imminentiraqwar; iraq; presidentbush; saddamhussein; tonyblair
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Bu-bye SADdam !...



1 posted on 02/09/2003 5:18:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
We all know what opinions are worth around here, but mine is there is no way Sadamn is going to run. Not as long as he has the French, Germans, Chinese, and Russians seemingly backing his play.

As far as "UN Peacekeepers", there better not be one American service man in a Blue Helmet in Iraq. GW follows this action and he can kiss his next election totally "Good Bye".

2 posted on 02/09/2003 5:25:23 AM PST by ImpBill
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To: MeeknMing
I don't think we should be giving the creep the opportunity. He'll simply run the country from exile. Or otherwise cause trouble. We would have no way of keeping tabs on him. How would we know he wouldn't be running terrorist ops from exile? Let's just go in and kill the guy and get it over with and quit all this yellow-bellied hand-wringing garbage!
3 posted on 02/09/2003 5:38:32 AM PST by greencow
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To: ImpBill
Any new resolution must insist on the departure of Saddam AND must insist on the destruction of WMD's still in Iraq.
4 posted on 02/09/2003 5:40:40 AM PST by xzins
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To: greencow
Yep. There's only one way to ensure he makes no more trouble for us. Send him to Allah.
5 posted on 02/09/2003 5:51:28 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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Attack on Iraq Betting Pool
6 posted on 02/09/2003 5:53:51 AM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: greencow
I'll bump to that!!
7 posted on 02/09/2003 6:07:55 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: ImpBill
...French, Germans, Chinese, and Russians seemingly backing his play...

Are they willing to go to war with the USA?

If not with us, then they are by definition against us.

8 posted on 02/09/2003 8:02:36 AM PST by bert
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To: MeeknMing
This has been the plan all along -- the preferred result in the game. Win without firing a shot.

But the idiot dems are once again are obstructing the path. Maddie Albright today on MTP emphasized that Saddam will HAVE to be prosecuted and/or killed, or words to that effect -- presumably by some international court.

She's saying to Saddam, in effect, you can't rely on any diplomatic arrangement for quiet exile.

So -- that type of talk means it's more likely Saddam will take his chances on calling our bluff. She's an idiot!

9 posted on 02/09/2003 8:28:16 AM PST by WL-law
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To: ImpBill; greencow; All
Thanks, folks. I don't think that there is any way that SADdam will leave, period. I also think that Bush and Blair believe that as well, imho...

Despite the Franco-German initiatives, Britain insists that Iraq has had enough last chances. "It's a question of timing as to when you reach that point of last resort," said Sir Jeremy Greenstock, the British ambassador to the UN.

"We've reached it. It's 600 weeks since we started the business of asking Iraq to disarm. And now it's time to cut the knot and take action."

Let's Roll !
10 posted on 02/09/2003 10:34:46 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. You're soon to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades.)
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To: MeeknMing
Besides being evil, he is stupid. He won't go into exile although the U.S. and U.K. would probably allow it.
11 posted on 02/09/2003 10:40:08 AM PST by LibKill (Mostly harmless)
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To: MeeknMing
Where were you yesterday, Meek? This was profusely discussed in about 4 threads.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/search?s=48+hours&ok=Search&m=any&o=time

12 posted on 02/09/2003 10:40:25 AM PST by Semper911 (US Military: Thanks for watching my back while I sleep.)
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To: greencow
Let Saddam flee to FRANCE. That way FRANCE will be the next country in AMERICAN crosshairs! WORKS FOR ME.
13 posted on 02/09/2003 2:48:16 PM PST by hdrider
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To: hdrider
So this all means that the war might start on Tuesday, FEBRUARY 11!!!
14 posted on 02/09/2003 10:39:13 PM PST by WatchNKorea ( http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a37a7ce78f9.htm)
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To: goldilucky; KLT; backhoe; LarryLied; Mia T; Lulu; Victoria Delsoul; Travis McGee; Fred Mertz; ...
bttt
15 posted on 02/10/2003 12:20:56 AM PST by WatchNKorea ( http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a37a7ce78f9.htm)
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To: MeeknMing
Saddam Hussein is a megalomaniac who has lived his whole life for the moment at hand. Like Saladin and Necuchadnezzar, he sees himself as a liberator of Jersualem. He's going nowhere before attempting to drop WMDs on Israel. He's much too old to to think of anything else.

Saddam without absolute power has no more reason to live than Michael Jackson without young boys.



16 posted on 02/10/2003 12:24:36 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: MeeknMing
The SOB had better run. No, on second thought, just hang around Baghdad #:>)

How history will tell the story:

A. The United States and Britian agreed that Saddamn had not complied with U.N. resolution 1440, had WMD, then attacked and removed Saddamn from power to prevent him from using (or allow some other terrorist) them.

B. The U.N. sent inspectors into Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction - the same WMD Saddamn said he did not have.

C. Saddamn, while insisting (and convincing France, Germany, and Belgium) he had no WMD, at the same time threatened the U.S. and Britian to destroy them WITH WMD if they attacked Iraq.

D. After the U.S. and Britian attacked Iraq, vast stores of WMD, chemical, biological, and yes - even some nuclear - were uncovered by the prevailing U.S. and British forces.

E. The Democrats in the United States had their worst election returns in the 2004 elections in that party's history.

F. George W. Bush was elected president for a second term in 2004 by the largest landslide in U.S. history.

G. Ditto for Tony Blair.

H. Hillary Clinton was defeated for his (grin) bid for reelection in New York State.

17 posted on 02/10/2003 5:11:16 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: Sabertooth
You've nailed it, Sabertooth ! Thanks

Saddam Hussein is a megalomaniac who has lived his whole life for the moment at hand. Like Saladin and Necuchadnezzar, he sees himself as a liberator of Jersualem. He's going nowhere before attempting to drop WMDs on Israel. He's much too old to to think of anything else.

Saddam without absolute power has no more reason to live than Michael Jackson without young boys.

As President Bush has said, he can disarm or we will do it for him. Frankly, I'm hoping that includes taking SADdam himself out too...
18 posted on 02/10/2003 10:15:08 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. You're soon to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Gotta love it ! Thanks. Let's Roll !
19 posted on 02/10/2003 10:28:53 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. You're soon to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades.)
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To: greencow
What about his body doubles? Do they have to leave too?
20 posted on 02/10/2003 6:47:15 PM PST by Orion78
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