British Author claims the Chinese, not Columbus, found America First

The Sacramento Bee ^ | Tuesday, January 7, 2003 | Ted Bell

[KQQL]

BRIT Author IS JEALOUS..that's all

[nothingnew]

You heard that story too, eh?

FMCDH

[KellyAdmirer]

I don't think the Chinese are going to be too interested in taking credit for the absolute greatest missed opportunity of all time, hands down.

[BfloGuy]

Being a discoverer is worthless if you bury all knowledge of what you have discovered

Exactly. That's my answer when somewhen wants to convince me that it was the Indians who discovered America.

They didn't tell anyone. Who knew?

[spetznaz]

I would say the Native Americans found it first by crossing the landbridge eons ago. After that i would say the Vikings (much much much later).

Actually i find it so funny when some ancient aztec temple is found and someone says 'I am the first to see it' (when obviously someone had to build the darn thing); or when an explorer sees the Nile for the first time and says 'I discovered the Nile' (when just a few meters to his left are villagers fishing from the darned river), etc etc etc.

Whether the Chinese came here before the Vikings, or whether the Raelians were engaging in clone wars 500 years ago and flying to the moon using Alien tech, the fact still remains that Native Americans had arrived thousands of years ago! Hence i this is a competition of who got here first then i guess the winner is a native american.

[Ciexyz]

If the records of that voyage were destroyed by the Emperor, then this Chinese explorer is Shit out of Luck.

[BIGZ]

Jig! Shame on you.

[blam]

"Considering the ancient red headed mummies found in North China it is not absurd to think that these folks' relatives also joined the parade across the land bridge. Or led it, even."

Yup. The ancient Europeans discovered China, and IMO.....were the majority race in China for a very long time, see Ainu and Jomon. Kennewick Man was mainly an Ainu, he arrived in North America (Washington State) at least 3,000 years (7,300BC) before anyone that looked like a Native American/American Indian came on the scene. Then, of course, we have the 200,000 year old Calico Site in California.

I believe the Red Headed Mummies found in China were in fact refugees from the Black Sea (Noah's) flood who followed the previous trail of Caucasians across the steppes and wound up in China, Japan and Korea and discovered their predicessors, the Ainu and the Jomon who had, by that time, already traveled down the coast into the Americas.

There are records in China that point out that the magic men to the Han Emperors were red headed.

Also, here are the names of people who are related: Hans, Huns, Scytian, Picts, Xiongnu and Hakka. (Just to name a few of the Asian/Caucasian cross-breeds.)

[JudyB1938]

"Pale Ink"

Crystalk, cool. Very few people know about that book. Besides the Bible, it's my favorite book of all time.

Although it is a translation of an ancient Chinese document, people put it into the same category with the MU and Atlantis stories. It isn't, as you and I both know.

I told blam about it a long time ago, but I don't know if he ever got it or not.

[VadeRetro]

Menzies, an amateur historian, insists that the fleet never turned back, but instead rounded the Cape of Good Hope and then went on to discover the New World.

According to Menzies' view, the Chinese sent expeditions in North America as far inland as Kansas and, from San Francisco Bay, up the Sacramento River into Glenn County.

They left in 1421 and circled the globe, including visiting inland Kansas? However they got to Kansas--and back out to their ships--they weren't gone long enough.

[VadeRetro]

... they weren't gone long enough.

... Considering they were back in China by 1423.

[guitfiddlist]

The Chinese (or their anscestors) found it 10,000 years ago, at least. We now call them Native Americans.

[blam]

"I told blam about it a long time ago, but I don't know if he ever got it or not."

No I didn't Judy. I touched on it some years ago. I am presently waiting delivery of a new book Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders by Dr. Robert Schoch. (He's the geologist who dated the Sphinx at about 10k years old.)

[wireman]

"As a starting point, the retired Royal Navy submarine commander relies heavily on the 1421 voyage of a great fleet of oceangoing Chinese junks under the command of the eunuch admiral Zheng He."

Could be true (not). He may have been a eunuch, but to his friends he was only half-nuts!

[blam]

"The Chinese (or their anscestors) found it 10,000 years ago, at least. We now call them Native Americans."

Nope. According to James C. Chatters (He did the work on Kennewick Man) in his book, Ancient Encounters, he states that there has not been any Native American skeletons found in the Americas that are older than 6,000 years old. Previous to 6,000 years ago, they were all of the Kennewick Man variety. (Buhl Woman, Spirit Cave Man, etc.)

[MikalM]

I believe it was Jimmy Durante who said, "All I know is that when Columbus discovered America, it stayed discovered!"

[blam]

Explorer From China 'Who Beat Columbus To America'

[cookcounty]

I started to read this.....Menzies said he was pursuaded because of the amazing detail of ancient Portuguese maps. But exactly what those details are, he decided to keep to himself. That's where I decided to quit.

[guitfiddlist]

Nope. According to James C. Chatters (He did the work on Kennewick Man) in his book, Ancient Encounters, he states that there has not been any Native American skeletons found in the Americas that are older than 6,000 years old.

Virtually each month brings a new discovery challenging the antiquity of the earlier settlers as to much older or much less. But one thing's for sure, Native Americans were here long before the Chinese of 1423 may or may have not been here. But if one had to tag a race to Native Americans, I think anybody would pretty much have to narrow it down to Asian.

[blam]

"But one thing's for sure, Native Americans were here long before the Chinese of 1423 may or may have not been here. But if one had to tag a race to Native Americans, I think anybody would pretty much have to narrow it down to Asian."

Yup. See the dental work done by Christy Turnes at Arizona State University.(some surprises)

There was a population explosion of Northern Chinese (compared to others) sometime in the BC, can't pin down a date though.