Gay man kills woman in religious dispute

Gay.com ^ | November 19, 2002

[wotan]

Where, exactly, is the Bible clear that homosexuality is not a sickness or a sin?

From Genesis:

If a man lieth with another man as with a woman, then both have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death.

If that doesn't make it clear that homosexuality is neither a sickness nor a sin, but an abomination and a capital crime, I don't know what does!

[nina0113]

"The Bible is clear that homosexuality is not a sickness and not a sin."

Which edition is that? It's not the Jerome, King James, or Revised Standard. Can I get a copy? What else isn't a sin? Inquiring minds want to know.

[MHT]

Wonder if a gay killing a person whose religion he does like is considered a hate crime? Oops, I forgot. Legally, hate only goes one way.

Some of these people better re-read the Bible (and yes, the Old Testament IS part of the Christian Bible). God may love the sinner but he sure doesn't like the sin. Practicing homosexuality is a violaion of the laws of God and nature.

[oyez]

Is it a "hate crime" if a homosexual man kills a woman?

No, it's self defense.

[Clint N. Suhks]

From Genesis: If a man lieth with another man as with a woman, then both have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death.

That’s Leviticus. Genesis details the sin of Sodom.

[FormerLib]

Of course the liberals are justifying this! They're OK with killing "intolerant" people, defined as anyone who dares to disagree with them.

[FormerLib]

NOTE: This story will not be playing at any major news network.

[Pablo64]

Please get your "facts" correct before you post such nonsense. Ms. Mollenkott was not an actual translator (ie, someone who translates from the original text English, in this example). The article in the link you provided even states this, so for you to say that "The Bible was reinterpreted by a lesbian named Mollenkott" is a lie.

You give Christians a bad name when you use lies to promote your own agenda while trying to claim the moral high ground.

I've used the NIV as well as many other "versions" of the Bible for years. I was never left in any doubt after reading the NIV as to what God's position on homosexuality is. He condemns that behavior as sin. Period. I get sick and tired of "Christians" who spend more time trying to convince someone of the superiority of a particular translation (usually the KJV, which by the way, has its own problems with translation that people could nit-pick if they wanted to), than they do actually trying to win souls for the Lord and His kingdom.

[billbears]

"The Bible is clear that homosexuality is not a sickness and not a sin."

This has to be the most idiotic statement I have ever seen

[A. Pole]

I found it trolling DU. And of course the liberals over there are actually defending the killing- see for yourself: http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID61/7542.html

I looked and I quote this sample message for your convenience:

OurMorale (312 posts)

Nov-20-02, 03:09 AM (ET)

Reply to post #4

10. I'm entitled to my opinion. Like I said, I'm probably going to be in therapy for the rest of my life because vampires like this think I'm a waste of a sperm and an egg. If by "talking to" you mean "being committed to rehab until Vampira is no longer a threat," then maybe I can agree with you.

I can certainly understand why the guy snapped and killed this homegrown terrorist. He should get off without parole IMHHHHHHHO. I can't approve of what he did. But as a flawed and lovable human being, I must say I do find personal satisfaction that someone fought back with deadly force. IMHHHHHHHO she did ask for it. 'Nuff said.

"With Man Gone is there Hope for Gorilla?" -- Daniel Quinn

"Saturn in the 10th House or a Capricorn midheaven can make a person as mean as they come." -- Debbi Kempton Smith

"To find a form that accommodates the mess, that is the job of the artist today." -- Samuel Beckett

"A Paradox? An Oxymoron? Can't decide? Then it's a Paradoxymoron." -- (moi)

[Texas Mom]

admitting that he became enraged during a conversation with Stachowicz because her questioning of his sexuality reminded him of debates with his mother.

It's his mothers fault.

[Green Knight]

Home-grown terrorist. Wow. Nice to see what liberals think of the religious and that moral equivocation is alive and well in the left (You know, how McArthur is just as bad as Stalin even though he never killed millions of people? Same deal). Unbelievable.

BTW: In regards to the other convo, check Leviticus 18:22. That's the verse which Ian McKellan hates, and goes around ripping out of Bibles whenever he stays at hotels.

"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female, it is an abomination."

[Clint N. Suhks]

"The Bible was reinterpreted by a lesbian named Mollenkott" is a lie.

Did you bump your head before you wrote this? No it’s not a lie and I’m not claiming she was the sole interpreter either. Here’s a quote from the article. “ Virginia Mollenkott was not the only homosexual who worked on the New International Version. “

Perhaps you should try reading the entire article before you open your pie hole.

I've used the NIV as well as many other "versions" of the Bible for years.

Too bad, I hope you used a condom.

someone of the superiority of a particular translation

So you agree that the sin of Sodom was about inhospitality, In Leviticus there’s a difference of degree between the meaning of the words “abomination” and “detestable and this act is on the same level as wearing clothes of two different materials. Romans was about lust and I CORINTHIANS is not clear if it means heterosexuals who abuse homosexuals or homosexuals who abuse each other.

You agree with these interpretations? .

[Free State Four]

Gutierrez, who is a ward of the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services.

I think there is something significant in the fact that a 19 year old is a ward of the state. fsf

[HetLoo]

>>Rutt said. "The Bible is clear that homosexuality is not a sickness and not a sin."
>>His name fits his moral state very well.

Rutt. Interesting. I've started a list of real names of people that match their political aspirations. So far I have Sapp, Bogus, Snitch and now Rutt.

[Sweet Hour of Prayer]

"This has to be the most idiotic statement I have ever seen"

It's right up their with Pelosi's "I'm a conservative Catholic" statement. People who twist the meaning of words are untrustworthy. Why the media lets people make false statements without challenging them with the obvious facts, is a mystery to me.

On another note, the Bible promises special rewards for those who are martyred for sharing God's Word. I hope this promise comforts her family and friends.

[seams2me]

Y E S.

[Prodigal Son]

I think there is something significant in the fact that a 19 year old is a ward of the state. fsf

Hmmm. If the liberals ever get their way we'll all be wards of the State from cradle to grave.

[Ff--150]

Silverwoman pointed out that nonsensical remark and wanted the scriptures to show homosexuality is a sin.

I just told her these people are not just murders, in this one case, but they are liars, as well. They are liberals, and truth will not change their minds, so why get drawn in...