Aryans In India: Old Debate Triggers New Debate

deepikaglobal.com ^ | 11-11-2002

[RLK]

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh Sarsanghchalak Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar .....

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This is the guy's name? How does he even remember who he is?

[Fiddlstix]

Bump

[blam]

"This is the guy's name? How does he even remember who he is?"

His friends and family call him 'Junior'.

[VadeRetro]

Whoever the "Aryans" were, they had an Indoeuropean language very similar to those old Persia and of some other Near East civilizations. It appears some of them stopped off in Persia and the rest went on to India, given the similarities.

Indian tradition has the Aryan invasion coming from the north and pushing the original inhabitants to the south. The pattern of languages on the subcontinent today supports that scenario, with Dravidian (non-Indoeuropean) languages in the south and in Sri Lanka, but only in a pocket or two in the north where Hindi and other descendants of Sanskrit predominate.

This "Indian origin" thing resembles the idea put out in this country that Ancient Egypt was peopled by blacks. That is, it's a modern invention to encourage ethnic pride. Perhaps next the Brits will decide that the Norman invaders may have come from Scotland or Wales.

[blam]

Tocharians? (Proto-Tocharians?)

[Eternal_Bear]

The Mitanni, Medes, Hittites and Philistines were the other Indo-European groups in the Mid East.

[VadeRetro]

very similar to those old Persia and of some other Near East civilizations.

Editor wanted. Must work for peanuts.

[VadeRetro]

The Mitanni, Medes, Hittites and Philistines were the other Indo-European groups in the Mid East.

That looks pretty good. Are you sure the Philistines weren't Semitic?

[VadeRetro]

Tocharians? (Proto-Tocharians?)

Heard of them, but remember little.

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[AM2000]

LOL...

Ok, here goes.. if you care:

"Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh" is the name of an organization (Hindu fascist). "Sarsanghchalak" is the name of a position within that organization. "Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar" is his name. Think of it as "Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard John Doe".

[blam]

Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Tocharians (But were afraid to ask)

[ContentiousObjector]

South-Asians (India and Pakistan) are genetically caucasian, where is the controversy?

[VadeRetro]

Oh, those guys. Yeah. Chinese Turkestan was a bit outside my thinking.

[VadeRetro]

Looking at my own question about the Philistines: they were probably refugees ("sea people") from Crete after the big Thera volcanic popoff best remembered through a haze of legend as the downfall of Atlantis. (It was really the Minoans on Crete.) It looks from a cursory scan tonight as though their language hasn't been deciphered very far.

[blam]

Maybe refugees from the Black Sea flood in 5600BC?
Thera exploded in 1628BC. (...and in my opinion, provided the fireworks for the Exodus.)

[akash]

"Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh Sarsanghchalak Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar"

The name of the person is Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar. "Sarsanghchalak" , transliterated into English would mean President and "Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh" is the name of a cultural organization. I hope that clarifies.

[akash]

"Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard John Doe".

Not very surprising that you choose to slander certain people and organizations and mislead the others with your hate propaganda.

[anu_shr]

Well Akash - you know it better - RSS and KKK are brother organisations which promote the same ideology - Aryan supremacy and hate for others. In Indian context - Aryan supremacy is expressed through the Brahminical order of caste system which is called the varna system. And Varna means color. The symbol is close too... the swastika.