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Tom Petty Is Pissed: And he's got plenty of good reasons [well actually only one or two]

Posted on 10/25/2002 7:30:10 PM PDT by ejdrapes

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To: zeaal
Anyone remember the memorial concert on TV right after 9/11? All the celebs coming on and singing about peace and love and kumbaya? They made me sick. Well, Tom Petty came on and sang "I Won't Back Down". That was, in my opinion, the only appropriate song that night. Go, Tom. I'll buy his CD on faith.
21 posted on 10/25/2002 10:43:59 PM PDT by Defend the Second
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To: LurkerNoMore!
Learning to fly bump
22 posted on 10/25/2002 11:46:57 PM PDT by freedom9
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To: ejdrapes
BUMP

and don't forget the beatles/traveling wilburys concert in London next month. With Clapton!
23 posted on 10/26/2002 12:00:08 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TheLurkerX
I got good and damned tired of paying nearly 20.00 for a CD with maybe two decent singles on it.

I'm a member of Columbia House and every now and then they run specials, like buy 1 at regular price, usually from $15 to 18 dollars and get two free. After shipping it comes out to around $8.50 per disk, which isn't too bad at all. But then I buy mostly older music, not what's around today which doesn't cut it for me anyway.

Btw, I miss the days when a local station would play a new album every week in its entirety, without commercials. You would know beforehand how good it was, and could even tape it if you wanted. They stopped doing it for some reason, maybe the record industry got a hold of them.

24 posted on 10/26/2002 6:16:54 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: ejdrapes
I gotta agree with him, especially about the radio industry. It is a disgusting mockery of what it once was, thanks largely to the Telecom Act of '95, which created the Cheap Channel juggernaut.

As far as CD and concert prices are concerned, well, the industry will charge whatever people will pay. I refuse to pay more than $25 for a concert ticket, so obviously I haven't been to a show in a long time. I refuse to pay more than $10 for a CD (and love paying $2-3 for a used record!), so I peruse the racks at the used record stores all the time, or haunt the half-price listings at e-Bay. Sorry, Tom, but as long as the people are willing to bend over and take it in the shorts, the industry is only gonna charge more and more.

As far as his societal observations go, I'm in full agreement.

What disappoints me most about TP is that he was an Alwhore supporter. I've never liked Bon-Jovi, so that didn't bother me a bit, but Tom Petty and I go way back.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

25 posted on 10/26/2002 7:12:22 AM PDT by wku man
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To: Dallas
Love the hypocrisy:

"My top price is about sixty-five dollars, and I turn a very healthy profit on that; I make millions on the road."

"Only a complete greedhead would charge $150 for a concert ticket"

I'm confused Tom. Is making millions good or bad? Perhaps, considering your wealth, you can just give free concerts from now on. You know, for the 'little' people.

26 posted on 10/26/2002 7:46:40 AM PDT by Northpaw
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To: timm22
"However, his profit-phobia is kind of silly"

Yeah, he does seem to come across as anti-profit, but his remarks are actually a warning to profit-only concerns. Business is about profit, but the way many venues are going after profit hurts future profits. In others words, they are taking profit today at the expense of profit for tomorrow, which is not very smart.

I think he is saying that profit is good, but not when it is taken without regard to the total picture of the industry and its ability to make profit.

Take professional sports. Most people cannot afford season tickets anymore. Even a simple basball ticket down third base outfield here in Denver at Coors Stadium costs $27. Dog and drink: $8. Profit is good, but it can also kill my desire to buy their products.
27 posted on 10/26/2002 12:07:48 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Northpaw
LOL....I imagine he's only saying, what a bunch of oldtimers feel is the truth.

I know it's true of sports figures. They made sacrifices in the old days just out of love for the game. And not just so these narcissistic dirtbags of today could reap gazillions.....(Cal Ripkin excluded, of course. He's priceless)

But in a capitalist society, I guess they can charge whatever the market will bear.

28 posted on 10/26/2002 1:49:45 PM PDT by Dallas
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To: giznort
re: saddened to see him with Gore...))))

I don't think this is an attitude conservatives can really afford to take. It is a fact that there are a lot of talented artists out there who get completely brainwashed by liberal politics. I think it's their hunger for approval and crowd-love--they think if they mouth the certain correct things they'll get the love. Or maybe talent genes get teamed up with stupidity genes--talented people are often the substance abusers, too...?

Appreciate the talent wherever you see it. Otherwise, we won't get to enjoy much!

I happen to love that old musical movie, "Hello Dolly" with Streisand. If I can enjoy her...!

29 posted on 10/26/2002 1:59:56 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: ejdrapes
Not really a Petty fan. I dig some of his material. I notice him and his band have been out on the road at the same time as Rush. Which is another band suffering from the same issues he speaks of, yet still pack the house.
30 posted on 10/26/2002 2:07:09 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: ejdrapes; All
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31 posted on 10/26/2002 2:09:35 PM PDT by gc4nra
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To: Orangedog
"Napster and all of it's bastard step-children have the potential to really revolutionize the distribution end of music."

Actually it will go even further than that.

Consider these factors: Back in the fifties we had the boom of post-war manufaturing that produced Televisions and radios in previously unheard of numbers.

Then new technologies in radio broadcasting and recording as well as distribution gave us cheap yet quality recording formats (Lps and 45s with stereo playback)

Then the market was new and fresh and anyone with any talent at all could get a record made since there was a huge vacum to fill thus you get Elvis, the Beatles, the British invasion, the motown sound, etc.

Flashforward to the Eighties and MTV and CDs, Digital technology cheaper to make and a new way to get your music heard. This is why Cindi Lauper, Men at Work, Duran Duran, Madonna, Bon Jovi, Def Leps, etc. became stars not because of the Music but because of the VIDEO!

New Format and new technolgy begets new wave of music.

Now we have the Internet and Broadband is growing.

Mad Dawgg's prediciton is the Next big wave in music will be the internet format but sans the "Recording Industry." We will see a new style of music that is totaly created on a PC with a visual display as well and (this is the cool part) there will be no hard copy save for those who burn it to CD in their homes!

And, the Artist will recieve any and all profits by paying him directly for the download.

The CD/Music industry is Dead and they (The music industry moguls) know it.

The same will happen to the DVD/Movie industry!

32 posted on 10/26/2002 2:35:30 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Dallas
Looks like the robot's got some oil leaks!

Maybe Tom was trying to destroy Gorebot before he became president and caused REAL damage!

33 posted on 10/26/2002 2:46:18 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ejdrapes
When money replaces God, this is what happens.
34 posted on 10/26/2002 2:51:22 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: ejdrapes
I basically agree with Petty and find it near impossible to listen to FM radio. At least my car has a CD player and I can burn my own CD's to listen to.

There is one radio station here in Boston however that is an exception, and it is a reminder of how FM radio used to be. It is WMBR 88.1 out of MIT and you can pick up a live feed here. I listen to the station hour after hour and have been turned on to some excellent music.

If you pick up the live feed, don't judge the station on what you hear at the current time. They are currently playing punk music but will start the "Bats in the Belfry" show at 6PM (which is a goth show that starts with ancient music and then plays two hours of goth rock.) Just about every type of music is heard here. Bluegrass, Celtic, Blues, Jazz, old style country, Cajun, Mexican, you name it, they play it at some point during the programming week.

35 posted on 10/26/2002 2:58:15 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ejdrapes
So what are the lyrics to his song that was banned.
BTW Tom Petty brings back some very nice memories of romance when I was a young adult. Sweeeet.
36 posted on 10/26/2002 3:00:51 PM PDT by oceanperch
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To: SamAdams76
I might add that WMBR actually played this Tom Petty song a couple of times so it is not banned there. Their very eclectic Programming Schedule here.
37 posted on 10/26/2002 3:02:06 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ejdrapes
Only a complete greedhead would charge $150 for a concert ticket

Many of the singers today aren't going to have long-lived careers, maybe they know it, they have to get rich quick because without talent they're not going to be around more than a few years.

38 posted on 10/26/2002 3:07:41 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Morose Musician
I hope the recording industry, as Tom suggested, will try pricing albums more reasonably so the temptation to download and burn will be less enticing.

It's not like people weren't copying 8-tracks and cassette tapes, I don't really see the big issue in burning a CD.

39 posted on 10/26/2002 3:09:25 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: ejdrapes
I'm a Petty fan from way back -- I ran my copy of Damn the Torpedoes into the ground back in high school.

Didn't Tom get so angry over rising album prices that he put his fist thru a wall and take himself out of commission for a few months back in '80 or '81?
40 posted on 10/26/2002 3:16:17 PM PDT by TheEditor
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