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Is Burial Box That of Christ's Brother?
National Geographic News ^ | 10.21.02

Posted on 10/21/2002 9:35:21 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

Researchers may have uncovered the first archaeological evidence that refers to Jesus as an actual person and identifies James, the first leader of the Christian church, as his brother.

The 2,000-year-old ossuary—a box that held bones—bears the inscription "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus." Until now, all references to the three men have been found only in manuscripts.


The ossuary is not quite rectangular, like most burial boxes found so far, but trapezoid in shape. It is about 20 inches long, 10 inches wide, and 12 inches high. The image on top shows the inscription "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus."

Photograph courtesy of Biblical Archaeology Society

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1 posted on 10/21/2002 9:35:21 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: blam; Carry_Okie; hedgetrimmer; countrydummy
Interesting. Blessed is he who has not seen yet believed.
2 posted on 10/21/2002 9:39:06 AM PDT by farmfriend
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To: billbears
Here's a picture of that. Yes the writer of James was believed to be the Lord's brother.
3 posted on 10/21/2002 9:40:58 AM PDT by Ff--150
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To: wallcrawlr
Walk by faith, not by sight.
4 posted on 10/21/2002 9:41:54 AM PDT by NewLand
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To: wallcrawlr
"Brother" as in "brethren"?

Mary wife of Cleophas and “sister” of the Virgin Mary (Jn 19:25)
is the mother of James and Joses (Mk 15:47; Mt 27:56)
who are called the “brothers of Jesus” (Mk 6:3)

Act 1:12-15> J has over 100 “brothers”
Jn 19:26-27> John takes Mary; not brothers
Jn 20:17-18> “brethren” means disciples
Gen 29:15> Laban calls uncle Jacob “brother”
5 posted on 10/21/2002 9:43:27 AM PDT by polemikos
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To: wallcrawlr
ossuary: a depository for the bones of the dead.
6 posted on 10/21/2002 9:46:32 AM PDT by polemikos
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To: Vic3O3
Picture ping!
7 posted on 10/21/2002 9:47:36 AM PDT by dd5339
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To: wallcrawlr
Can't you just hear the "Mom always loved YOU best!" arguements?
8 posted on 10/21/2002 9:48:16 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: wallcrawlr
This find is incredible, for spiritual and historical reasons. It marvels me, however, that the writer could be so factually wrong about James being the "brother" of Jesus since Jesus had no blood brothers. If James is indeed the son of Joseph, historically it is believed (I don't know the chain of proof, if any, perhaps someone else does) that Joseph may have been married previous to marrying Mary, and had children from that first marriage. However, most scholars believe that by "brother" Jesus meant "bretheren" or "cousins". Scripturally, why would Jesus give Mary to the beloved disciple John if she had any other sons who would have by duty taken care of her?

Still, such an archeological find is incredible!

9 posted on 10/21/2002 9:52:16 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
It marvels me, however, that the writer could be so factually wrong about James being the "brother" of Jesus since Jesus had no blood brothers.

The writer obviously committed the sin of believing that the New Testament means what it says....

10 posted on 10/21/2002 9:57:39 AM PDT by Grover_Cleveland
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To: Grover_Cleveland
The writer obviously committed the sin of believing that the New Testament means what it says...

...as interpreted by modern deformers with presuppositional agendas? ;-)
11 posted on 10/21/2002 10:01:22 AM PDT by polemikos
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To: wallcrawlr
Whether Jesus was the son of Christ is a theological problem

Genealogical, too.

12 posted on 10/21/2002 10:03:13 AM PDT by monkey
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To: wallcrawlr
Where was this discovered?
13 posted on 10/21/2002 10:03:55 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: NewLand
walk by faith, not by sight

Noboady is called to blind faith. Things like this that serve to strengthen faith are perfectly okay. The blindly faithful are easily mislead.

14 posted on 10/21/2002 10:05:03 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: monkey
Unfortunately the ossuary was empty. Does anyone know if there are relics that are believed to be James? A little DNA from the Shroud plus the bones of a "brother" would make an interesting comparison...
15 posted on 10/21/2002 10:06:14 AM PDT by polemikos
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To: polemikos; St.Chuck; sandyeggo; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Polycarp
But this particular James was the son of Joseph.

The oldest Christian traditions, which the Romanists ignore, maintain that this James (pastor of the Jerusalem) was from Mary's womb--and hence, a blood brother of Jesus Christ.

See http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a394d3ff9758a.htm

(Actually, Protestants don't base their position concerning Mary's NON-perpetual virginity on these ancient traditions. We are merely UNsurprised by these traditions. And we dare to cite these traditions as a way of pointing out that RCs seem to be suspiciously selective in their appeals to tradition.

Protestants ultimately base their position on a straightforward reading of Mark 6:3 and Matthew 13:55--coupled with the undeniable fact that cohabitation as husband and wife without any sexual intercourse whatsoever is ungodly and ultimately forbidden in Scripture.)

16 posted on 10/21/2002 10:06:38 AM PDT by the_doc
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To: wallcrawlr
It would be interesting if they could do a DNA sample of James' bones and the blood on the shroud of Turin to see if there is a DNA match. It would verify that James and Jesus were brothers....
17 posted on 10/21/2002 10:07:41 AM PDT by Maringa
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Where was this discovered?

In a private collection. The box was empty.
18 posted on 10/21/2002 10:08:00 AM PDT by polemikos
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To: the_doc
MARY'S PERPETUAL VIRGINITY

1. Many Protestants assume that whenever they read of Jesus' "brothers," this is referring to His siblings, other sons and daughters of Mary. But it is not that simple. "Adelphos," the Gk. word for "brother" in the NT, has multiple meanings (like the English word), and they all appear frequently in Scripture. In addition to sibling, it can also denote (1) those of the same nationality (Acts 3:17; Rom 9:3); (2) any man, or neighbor (Mt 5:22; Lk 10:29); (3) persons with like interests (Mt 5:47); (4) distant descendants of the same parents (Acts 7:23,26; Heb 7:5); (5) persons united by a common calling (Rev 22:9); (6) mankind (Mt 25:40; Heb 2:17); (7) the disciples (Mt 28:10; Jn 20:17); (8) all believers (Mt 23:8; Acts 1:15; Rom 1:13; 1 Thess 1:4; Rev 19:10). Clearly, then, this issue is not at all settled by the mere word "brother"/"adelphos" in the Bible, and a more in-depth examination of the biblical data will be necessary.

2. "Brethren" - Biblical Exegesis

A. By comparing Gen 14:14 with 11:26-7, we find that Lot, called Abraham's "brother", is actually his nephew.

B. Jacob is called the "brother" of his Uncle Laban (Gen 29:10,15).

C. Cis and Eleazar are described as "brethren", whereas they are literally cousins (1 Chron 23:21-2).

D. "Brethren" as mere kinsmen: Deut 23:7; 2 Sam 1:26; 1 Ki 9:13; 2:32; 2 Ki 10:13-14; Jer 34:9; Amos 1:9.

E. Neither Hebrew or Aramaic has a word for "cousin." The NT retains this Hebrew usage by using "adelphos," even when non-siblings are being referred to.

F. In Lk 2:41-51, Joseph and Mary take Jesus to the Temple at the age of twelve, with no sign of any other siblings.

G. Jesus Himself uses "brethren" in the larger sense (Mt 23:1,8; 12:49).

H. By comparing Mt 27:56; Mk 15:40; and Jn 19:25, we find that James and Joseph - mentioned in Mt 13:55 with Simon and Jude as Jesus' "brethren" - are also called sons of Mary, wife of Clopas. This other Mary (Mt 27:61; 28:1) is called Mary's "adelphe" in Jn 19:25 (two Marys in one family?! - thus even this usage apparently means "cousins" or more distant relative). Mt 13:55 and Mk 6:3 mention Simon, Jude and "sisters" along with James and Joseph, calling all "adelphoi". Since we know that  James and Joseph are not Jesus' blood brothers, it is likely that all these other "brethren" are cousins, according to the linguistic conventions discussed above.

I. Even standard evangelical Protestant commentaries such as Jamieson, Fausset & Brown admit that the question is not a simple one: "an exceedingly difficult question . . . nor are opinions yet by any means agreed . . . vexed question, encompassed with difficulties." {commentary for Mt 13:55}

J. Some Protestant commentators maintain that Mt 1:24-5 ("Joseph knew her not till . . .") implies that Mary had marital relations after the birth of Jesus. This does not follow, since "till" does not necessarily imply a change of behavior after the time to which it refers (cf. similar instances in 1 Sam 15:35; 2 Sam 6:23; Mt 12:20; Rom 8:22; 1 Tim 4:13; 6:14; Rev 2:25).

K. Likewise, "firstborn" (Mt 1:25) need not imply later children. A mother's first child is her "firstborn" regardless if any follow or not (Ex 13:2). Also, in the Bible, "firstborn" often means "preeminent," and even applies to those who are not literally the  first child (Jer 31:9), or, metaphorically, to groups (Ex 4:22; Heb 12:23). Thus, "firstborn" in Mt 1:25 actually is more of an indication that Jesus is Mary's only child, than that there were others. This position is held by many evangelical Protestant scholars on these criteria, rather than Catholic dogmatic grounds.

L. Jesus committed his Mother to the care of John from the Cross (Jn 19:26-7). This is improbable if He had full brothers of His own then alive. Again, many Protestant interpreters agree.

M. Who would want to have God for a brother anyway?! Talk about sibling rivalry and an inferiority complex! The whole notion, if pondered, seems more and more improper and unbecoming - out and out implausible, even apart from the biblical data.

3. Early Christian Tradition was unanimous in holding to Mary's Perpetual Virginity. It was first doubted, as far as we know, by one Helvidius, who tangled with St. Jerome in 380, but by few others until recent times. All the Protestant Founders firmly held the belief, as did later notable Protestants such as John Wesley, and many more to this day, on biblical grounds alone.

Item V. from Dave Armstrong's site.

19 posted on 10/21/2002 10:23:16 AM PDT by polemikos
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To: polemikos
You'd better read the thread I linked. There are liars aplenty in our fallen world of stupid religiosity. Who are you going to believe?

There is such a thing as reprobation. And it's a terribly serious, even pervasive problem.

20 posted on 10/21/2002 10:30:03 AM PDT by the_doc
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