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Ga. school board OKs teaching creationism
CNN.com ^ | Friday, September 27, 2002 | CNN

Posted on 09/27/2002 5:59:21 AM PDT by Heartlander

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:01:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) --A suburban Atlanta school board Thursday night voted unanimously to allow teachers to introduce students to different views about the origins of life, among them creationism.

The Cobb County Board of Education, the state's second-largest school board, approved the policy change after limited discussion, calling it a "necessary element of providing a balanced education."


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To: All
I just bought what appears to be a really fine book: "Evolution" ed. by Mark Ridley.

It's a collection of essays and excerpts from papers by 60-odd scientists.

EG Francis Crick on the early (chemical, not Darwinian exactly) evoultion of the genetic code, Dobzhansky's classical essay from 1973, "Nothing in Biology makes sense except in light of evolution" which I didn't realize starts off discussing a 1966 attempt by a mullah to get the king of Saudi Arabia to ban the teaching of Copernican theory and bring charges of falsehoods toward Allah, the Koran and the Prophet. (Copernicanism is in fact, just a theory)

Highly recommended.

522 posted on 09/30/2002 5:19:33 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Buck Turgidson
My understanding of the controversy was that the school board never intended creationism to be "taught" but merely that a disclaimer to the effect that all theories concerning the origin of life should be approached w/ an open mind and that this disclaimer should be included w/ science textbooks.

Based upon the discussion of this thread I consider that to be established.

523 posted on 09/30/2002 5:30:33 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: Buck Turgidson
Ding, ding, ding…
We have a winner.
A skewed story from CNN? Say it’s not sooo…

Way to go Buck!

524 posted on 09/30/2002 5:47:28 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: All
If CNN played Aqualung ...
525 posted on 09/30/2002 5:56:38 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Buck Turgidson
It turns out the school board DOESN'T want creationism taught.

They do, but it's to be done in the interest of "balancing" the "disputed" view of evolution. Not in the interest of promoting religion. Heavens, no!

526 posted on 09/30/2002 6:04:35 PM PDT by Nebullis
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To: Heartlander
The world was lacking a Bossa Nova treatment of Aqualung. Until now! How did we ever get along?
527 posted on 09/30/2002 6:06:28 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
I must confess, I bought this CD and it has been amusing to play this as background music (in the CD shuffle) just to see the expression on someone’s face when they realize… Hey, what the…I know this…
Priceless!
Of course on the down side, I am forced to play it again for everyone…
528 posted on 09/30/2002 6:18:19 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander
Curious. (Don't Fear) the Reaper. I can't decide if I'm attracted or repelled.
529 posted on 09/30/2002 6:26:39 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
LOL! Be afraid, be very afraid! (of that rendition of the song of course)
530 posted on 09/30/2002 6:31:03 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Junior
Remember, Junior is a Darwinist.

And a Catholic.

No, you are not a Catholic. You may have been born a Catholic but no longer are one. Evolution has turned you away from your religion. You know very well that evolution, and in particular the extreme materialism in which you believe, is completely incompatible with any sort of Christianity.

531 posted on 09/30/2002 6:34:20 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Heartlander
ROFL! Rebel Rebel (#9).
532 posted on 09/30/2002 6:37:49 PM PDT by Nebullis
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To: Nebullis
I Wanna Be Sedated
It still makes me laugh.
A surreal contrast for a different time in my life. I’m not trying to get serious; you’d need to have known me at the time. I still catch ‘heck’ when I run into those who did… Okeley dokely…
533 posted on 09/30/2002 6:48:29 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: gore3000
Beginning next Sunday I'll begin saying a novena to St. Jude to open your mind. At the very least, it'll keep me on an even keel...
534 posted on 09/30/2002 6:57:50 PM PDT by Junior
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To: PatrickHenry
Yes, but Intelligent Design "theory" has certain features that make it attractive to some people:
1. It can't be disproved (which means it's not science).

Neither can evolution because they keep changing the theory. In fact evolutionary theory is so totally phony that evolutionists will not even state just what the theory of evolution is, how it does what it does and how it can be disproven.

2. It's not evolution (the devil's own religion, you know)

Actually the above is quite accurate (a first for you?). As we have shown on many of these threads the theory of evolution is basic to Naziism. It also was highly regarded Marx and by numerous atheists. In addition its central theme 'survival of the fittest' and the implied moral that everything is legitimate for the sake of survival makes it quite a good tool for Satan.

3. Its advocates imagine they can avoid being labeled thumpers.

Perhaps, however, ID has a strong scientific basis and it has been believed by many great minds going back all the way to Aristotle so the canard of the evolutionists that all who oppose it are idiots (and that is your favorite canard) is a lie.

4. It doesn't explain anything (so there's nothing to explain).

It explains a lot. It explains why we keep learning more about life and yet we cannot find the key to explain it all. It explains why all the laws of nature had to be so exact. It explains why the answer to a problem is not to be found as simply as the dummies of evolution think it can. But most important it explains that while we may never know the final answer, we can find some answers which will be beneficial to mankind because unlike what the nihilists of evolution claim the world is not a random mess, a throw of the dice, but an orderly world made for us.

5. It's not supported by any evidence (so there's nothing to learn).

Another lie. Of course it is. There are many supports for it - Behe's bacterial flagellum is definitely ID and disproves evolution. More importantly though scientists, real scientists think that (1) the universe was indeed designed, (2) that life could not have arisen by chance and (3) that the development of an organism from a single cell to 100 trillion cells of exactly the right kind in exacly the right place all connected together is a program which could not have arisen at random.

Oh yes, I almost forgot, way back on post#138 I give five living examples of evidence against evolution and for ID. You and your evo 'scientists' have consistently ignored it and have not even attempted a refutation, so until anyone does, it is evidence of ID being true.

6. School boards are dumb enough to buy into it.

Aaah, here it comes again - anyone who denies evolution is an idiot. Other favorite canards are that those who do not buy into evolution are crazy or liars. These are the kind of arguments made by ideologues such as Communists and other such vermin. Those are not the kind of arguments made by people who believe in science or in seeking the truth.

535 posted on 09/30/2002 7:02:46 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
Indeed, science, and evolution in particular, have nothing to say at all about the topic of God.

Of course it does. Evolution denies that God is the Creator of life, that He is the Creator of man. In fact evolution has always been surrounded by a large cast of atheists from Darwin, Huxley and Haeckel to Gould and Dawkins. Evolution denies His works in an attempt to make Him irrelevant. By replacing a just and kind God with chaos and survival of the fittest it seeks to break the moral code and excuse perversity and immorality. So yes, evolution has a lot to say about religion.

536 posted on 09/30/2002 7:10:42 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Right Wing Professor
The above is a very obvious statement about the rules of discussion,

Nope, your rhetorical nonsense is just an attempt to turn this discussion from the issues - on which the evolutionists can never win because evolution is a lie - to character assassination. The subject of these threads is not the participants no matter how much the evolutionists try to deny it. Therefore your statement was abusive, and not only deliberately abusive, but also connivingly abusive.

537 posted on 09/30/2002 7:15:20 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Condorman
You are an utter despicable piece of garbage. Insulting me and totally misquoting my statements. You cannot deny the truth so vile creature that you are you try to destroy those who dare to tell it.

I can see why you may be angry for my daring to post the truth about your totally degenerate leader whose maggott infested carcass you hold so dear. However the quote is accurate and the source has been given so that anyone who cares to see the full context (and I encourage all to read the Descent of Man - a total joke which shows the true stripes of Darwin):

With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.
Darwin, "The Descent of Man", Chapter V.

There is no excuse for the above in his 2nd most popular work. What he might have said in a letter trying to excuse his execrable statement above is irrelevant. It is especially irrelevant since the statement above is central to his degenerate theory. He is angry that the survival of the fittest which he holds so dear is being prevented from doing its work by kindness, morality and Christian charity. That shows what kind of man he was - a despicable human being and a charlatan posing as a scientist.

538 posted on 09/30/2002 7:33:01 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: All
Placemarker until tomorrow.
539 posted on 09/30/2002 7:35:01 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: gore3000
You are in fine form tonight!
540 posted on 09/30/2002 7:36:18 PM PDT by Nebullis
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