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Congress Returns Facing Iraq, Homeland Security [Be careful what you wish for...]
Reuters ^ | Friday, August 30, 2002 | By Thomas Ferraro

Posted on 08/30/2002 9:48:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 08/30/2002 9:56:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A possible U.S. attack on Iraq and legislation to bolster America's homeland security top the agenda for lawmakers when they return from an August recess next week and start the home stretch of the 107th Congress. Continues.

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Be careful what you wish for...

Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.

That's the lesson for Democrats with new reports that the White House intends to seek Congressional support for military action to topple Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein from power.

A chorus of leading Democrats in recent weeks have clamored for full debate and a vote before any U.S. military action against the Baghdad regime.

House Democrat leader Dick Gephardt of Missouri has loudly insisted on it, arguing that, without explicit Congressional backing, any use of force would lack 'legitimacy'.

Speaking Monday at a campaign event in Waterbury, Conn., Gephardt said "the President has to get Congressional approval, he must have a debate on this issue and a vote in Congress."

He added that "this issue is much more than just a legal debate. The President will need the decisive support of the public and their elected representatives in order to initiate and sustain the effort that will be required to eliminate the threat posed by this regime."

Congress must get involved, echoed Democrat Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

Through a spokesman he urged that "for the good of the country and for the long-term success of whatever approach we take, President Bush should follow his father's lead and support a vigorous and constructive debate on Iraq."

Sen. Robert C. Byrd went even farther, marshaling the views of academicians whom he says affirm the need for fresh Congressional authority.

"There is an emerging consensus among leading scholars", said the West Virginia Democrat and ranking member of the Armed Services Committee, "that the 1991 use of force resolution cased to be effective once Iraq capitulated to U.S. and allied forces in April 1991." (Actually, the resolution said nothing of the kind, but let's leave it that.)

The presstitutes, convinced Democrats had gained the upper-hand politically, were licking their chops, clicking their heels.

The White House had somehow lost control of the debate, losing the public relations battle, they chortled. The administration appears defensive, even indecisive, almost adrift, they crowed.

Indeed, for Democrats, it looked to be the best of all worlds: Calling for debate and a vote allowed them to play both sides of the fence, and avoid taking a stance, one way or the other, on the use of force. With polls showing strong support for military action, Democrats feared getting on the wrong side of the issue politically, especially as November approaches and with terrorism still a top voter concern.

Over the weekend, a report that White House lawyers believe Congressional authority already exists for military action touched off a firestorm among Democrats, prompting them to come out even more forcefully on the "need" for debate and a mandate from Congress.

For the White House, the whole thing worked like a charm.

Eh?

Yep, you heard right -- it worked like a charm.

Bush cunningly laid the bait, Democrats went for it, foolishly.

Think about it: Why on earth give Democrats a pass -- avoid going on the record, up-or-down, for-or-against, war on Saddam Hussein? Where's the downside in forcing their hand? Democrats pay obligatory lip-service on Saddam, conceding he's not exactly your local choir boy, that 'regime change' is a neat idea ... but ... but ... there's always a 'but' there, somewhere.

Bush wasn't about to let these snakes wriggle off the hook, however. Put your money where your mouth is, O boys and girls.

White House strategy hence was to goad Democrats into calling for Congressional debate and a vote, then turning the tables -- on them, the media, the doves, the 'do-nothings'.

That's what the White House legal opinion was all about: Prodding the Democrats to demand involvement.

The new twist likely leaves Democrat strategists scratching their heads, wondering, 'what the heck were we thinking? How could we fall for this trap? This turns our campaign strategy for the fall on its head! Prescription drugs, Social Security, corporate fraud, a limping economy -- those were the things we needed to run on! Now the whole fall campaign will be dominated by Iraq and Saddam -- DRATS!!!'

No, this wasn't 'wag-the-dog' on Bush's part, either. Not a chance.

You see, unlike X42, this President reveres and respects the men and women who serve in uniform. He honors them, treasures them, cherishes them. And they love him back. (Have you notice their glowing smiles whenever he's around?) Under his orders, when missiles are lobbed, one thing you can be absolutely sure of: It's not a dog-and-pony show to distract from scandal.

That's why character counts.

The upshot: Bush gets what he wanted -- everyone on the record as we enter Phase II of the War on Terror.

Democrats have yet to learn a simple lesson: Never come with a knife to a gun fight.

Anyway, that's...

My two cents...
"JohnHuang2"



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Friday, August 30, 2002

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1 posted on 08/30/2002 9:48:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Yeah, don't forget that subverting the Constitution is always high on their aganda.
2 posted on 08/30/2002 9:55:08 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
Bingo.
3 posted on 08/30/2002 9:56:41 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Bush plays chess while the rats are still on the checker board....again....
4 posted on 08/30/2002 9:57:43 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: JohnHuang2
Make everyone of them vote up or down on this. I want to see who is who.
5 posted on 08/30/2002 9:58:14 AM PDT by mware
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To: spokeshave
Exactly, my friend.
6 posted on 08/30/2002 9:58:46 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: mware
Make everyone of them vote up or down on this. I want to see who is who.

Amen.

7 posted on 08/30/2002 9:59:04 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I am so glad you wrote about this. I noticed this in Cheney's speech yesterday and it leaped out at me: he did, indeed, call their bluff. And as a prelude to the vote, we will get to see Leahy question Rice, Rumsfeld, and Cheney.

Anyone want to bet on the outcome of that? Ha!

8 posted on 08/30/2002 10:04:52 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: JohnHuang2
Yes, John, the Rats may have overplayed their hand. The presstitutes' collusion in trying to chill the war--UN, Chirac, Ramsey Clark, Scowcroft etc. stories--will be shown to have been for nil. Congress has to support the war (at least for the election) and the more they debate, the less chance the 'Rats have to lie about the economy, prescription drugs etc. Hehehehe....
9 posted on 08/30/2002 10:07:24 AM PDT by eureka!
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To: JohnHuang2
The House will immediately approve a resolution by an overwhelming vote and send it to the Senate, where Daschle will find a way to posture and bottle it up until after the 'lections. Or at least ATTEMPT to. This might be one of the last things Little Tommie does before assuming the post of Senate Minority Leader.

Michael

10 posted on 08/30/2002 10:07:44 AM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: JohnHuang2
Make them vote before leaving town for the election campaign. An aye or nay from each of the bigmouths will be instructive. Either way they vote, it will hurt Carnahan, Wellstone, Levin, Cleland and others.
11 posted on 08/30/2002 10:12:09 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Wright is right!
Bottling up the resolution is the worst possible approach for Daschle, because it points up his greatest weakness: obstruction of the president's agenda. He'd be foolish and stupid to try that approach.
12 posted on 08/30/2002 10:13:12 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Miss Marple
And as a prelude to the vote, we will get to see Leahy question Rice, Rumsfeld, and Cheney.

hehehe ;^)

13 posted on 08/30/2002 10:14:22 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: mwl1
He'd be foolish and stupid to try that approach.

Daschle's been miscalculating ever since staging his palace coup.

14 posted on 08/30/2002 10:15:32 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: mwl1
Make them vote before leaving town for the election campaign. An aye or nay from each of the bigmouths will be instructive.

Bank on it. This CONGRESS isn't going home TILL they vote up-or-down.

15 posted on 08/30/2002 10:16:38 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Wright is right!
Wouldn't be a bit surprised, amigo.
16 posted on 08/30/2002 10:17:07 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
The Dems keep saying there needs to be a debate and a vote, so what's stopping them? Bring up a resolution and debate it then have a vote. Simple huh?

Except that the Dems don't really want a debate and a vote so much as they want Bush to have to come to them hat in hand and ask for one. After all, there is no requirement that the Persiednt ask for a declaration of war (or it's modern equivelent, a resolution) for Congress to pass one. What they want to establish that the Adminstration is on a short leash in the war on terror and foreign policy in general. Hence they continue to say Bush must "make the case" for an Iraq invasion despite the fact that you would have to live in a cave in Nepal not to know the facts. They also dread Bush's increased prestige and popularity that a successful operation would bring, but want to at least be able to share in the glory of a successful war. But a vote one way or the other will split their base. A yes vote will alienate the pacifist wing of the party, but a no vote will alienate moderate Democrats and independents who they need to get elected. So they are carping from the sidelines hoping they won't actually have to vote until at least after the elections.

The best plan for the Bush adminstration is to have Republican legislators sponsor resolutions authorizing the president to take whatever actions he needs to about Saddam. The Pubs should be able to force a vote in the House where it should pass easily. If Daschle doesn't bring it up in the Senate any later complaints about not having a say will be shown to be hollow political BS. That way either Bush gets another authorization and he pre-empts a Dem attack that they weren't consulted or if he doesn't get a resolution he can always go ahead and act without it based on the opinion of the White House Consul.

17 posted on 08/30/2002 10:17:36 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: eureka!; Wright is right!
Exactly, my friend -- though I believe the scenario "Wright is right!'" sketched (post #10) is likely, to wit, Daschle will try to bottle up the vote, the obstruction sparks a backlash, touching off mutiny in the Dems' rank.

Bottom line: Bush gets his vote, Daschle ends up with egg on his face, yet again.

20 posted on 08/30/2002 10:21:31 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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