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What Has Bush Done For Conservatives Lately?
Accuracy In Media ^ | August 23, 2002 | Paul M. Weyrich

Posted on 08/25/2002 12:50:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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1 posted on 08/25/2002 12:50:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Nice summation. Taken together, it is not unimpressive.

I know us Uberconservatives have been disappointed by W at many turns during his tenure.

But pause for a moment, and imagine what this summation would have looked like if Al Gore was POTUS.

What a sickening, frightening, maddening read this would have been.

That is, if this website was allowed to exist at all.

2 posted on 08/25/2002 1:01:22 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Eccl 10:2
*pause for a moment, and imagine what this summation would have looked like if Al Gore was POTUS.*

exactly! :: shudder ::

3 posted on 08/25/2002 1:10:51 PM PDT by TxBec
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks Joe.

Many of the listed "victories" are verbal support for or against something - Talk is cheap.

When I step back and look at the big picture.....

this is what I see.

A bigger government, Higher Taxes, More federal regulations, and A total lack of respect for the Bill of Rights.

It's not good enough, Americans deserve better.

4 posted on 08/25/2002 1:12:48 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
First there is the passage of the tax cut and the effort to make it permanent.

You mean the time release tax cut that hasn't begun to kick in, yet?

Then, there is the nomination of excellent judges and the defense of those nominees who are encountering opposition for partisan purposes.

Is he referring to conservative judge (Pickering?) who Bush turned his back on?

President Bush rejected the International Criminal Court.

This one is a moving target. He rejected it rhetorically, but substantially, he is still trying to preserve it. Although, Bush says he won't sign (he doesn't have to Clinton did) it, it is still there waiting for a sympathetic congress.

The President opposed taxpayer-funded embryonic stem cell research.

Initially, the President opposed embryonic stem cell research, but supported adult stem cell research. He didn't keep his promise on this issue.

The Justice Department has supported the correct view of the Second Amendment.

Although, a super majority of Americans support guns in the cockpit the Bush administration ruled no differently than a Gore administration would've.

The President has pushed for energy independence.

He did?

He signed the parsonage tax credit bill and the Born Alive Infant Protection bill, during which, at the signing ceremony, the President made the strongest pro-life statement coming out of the Oval Office in a couple of decades.

This was a huge win for conservatives.

If the squeaky wheel gets the grease, apparently conservatives haven't been vocal enough about their disatisfaction with the President's betrayal.

5 posted on 08/25/2002 1:13:48 PM PDT by Nephi
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To: TxBec
"*pause for a moment, and imagine what this summation would have looked like if Al Gore was POTUS.*

I'll give you this one.

"*pause for a moment, and imagine, is this as good as it gets?"*

6 posted on 08/25/2002 1:15:26 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: WhiteGuy
Many of the listed "victories" are verbal support for or against something - Talk is cheap.....It's not good enough, Americans deserve better

In other words, It's not good enough for WhiteGuy, but of course a lot of people on FR know that even if W. implemented WhiteGuy's agenda 100% that WhiteGuy would still not be satisfied.

You are correct, talk is cheap, as exemplified by you.

7 posted on 08/25/2002 1:20:31 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Tailgunner Joe
To paraphrase you-know-who, I guess it depends on the meaning of "lately".

I was surprised to see GW wield the veto pen, striking down 4 + billion $$$ worth of pork, while postponing a half-billion dollars of worthy expenses.

That took guts, kudos to him. GW certainly doesn't seem to be getting enough credit for it, which highlights his, pardon the pun, "deficits", as of late.

GW's PR skills have been sorely missing this summer. His speech in Oregon the other day, was the first time in months I have heard him be articulate, passionate, and with unquestionably sound reasoning. I sure wish he sounded like that when he is discussing the economy or foreign policy.

But it is now almost the end of the quiet before the election storm, so perhaps GW is just warming up to take the field?

8 posted on 08/25/2002 1:31:50 PM PDT by muleboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I consider most of the things listed as crumbs, and in some cases as with the ICC not even whole crumbs. Frankly as far as I am concerned, and many like me, and the religious right that didn't turn out to vote for him, this statement of his regarding destroying our sovereignty, is too big a price to pay for the crumbs from his table.

"By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America."

A new America or the destruction of all that we know as America? Because to be very blunt, I don't want to be Mexico, nor do I want to be South America, and I hold no value for a President that doesn't know or respect the difference. A President that doesn't see or care that what a real American holds dear, the Constitution, our sovereignty, our culture, cannot withstand such an invasion of communist voters, not to mention terrorist invaders.

I didn't vote for him to be President of the entire Western Hemisphere, and he sure acts like he is. I didn't vote for him to be compassionate to strangers, while showing a total lack of compassion for his own countrymen and the survival of our Constitutional Republic, not to mention our survival of open borders and insane visa policies.

He can keep his paltry crumbs, no one that loves their country and is concerned with it's survival will nibble on them either.

9 posted on 08/25/2002 1:33:58 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Dane
I agree with you. Let's just say, "this is as good as it gets as long as we have a Democrat-dominated body of lawmakers log-jamming the President at every turn". It frustrates me that "pro-family conservatives are not motivated to vote"...Liberals are ALWAYS motivated to vote...
10 posted on 08/25/2002 1:34:55 PM PDT by lsee
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To: PhiKapMom; Howlin; Miss Marple

PKM..... Info for your Take Back the Senate endeavor.

11 posted on 08/25/2002 1:39:44 PM PDT by deport
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To: Eccl 10:2
But pause for a moment, and imagine what this summation would have looked like if Al Gore was POTUS.

Well, for one thing, we'd be looking at a 40 to 50 seat gain in the house and perhaps 5 to 6 senate seats picked up by the Republicans. Oh yeah, aside from the paltry tax cut of 2001, we'd have pretty much the same liberal agenda that Bush advocated.

Now though, we're going to lose the house and the dem's will pick up even more seats in the Senate. At that point Bush is a lame-duck President who will sign almost all the liberal legislation in a vain attempt to get reelected.

Have a nice day.

12 posted on 08/25/2002 1:42:41 PM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: lsee
Yes, brahs!

Conservatives have to understand that you can't make law if you don't have a Senate majority. If the likes of Tom Daschle control the Senate Calendar, then you have to compromise and adjust your tactics somewhat.

Bush never has had a working majority in the Senate, even when Cheney was aroundn to break ties. It's time some of you out there, including Mr. Weyrich, understood that.

Keep the House and return a Republican Senate Majority and we'll be fine.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

13 posted on 08/25/2002 1:44:53 PM PDT by section9
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To: MissAmericanPie; Nephi; WhiteGuy
He can keep his paltry crumbs, no one that loves their country and is concerned with it's survival will nibble on them either.

UNAPPEASEABLES, all of you.

Bellyaching, griping, complaining is all you folks know how to do.

God, I'd hate to be in your households.

14 posted on 08/25/2002 1:47:37 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What has Bush done for conservatives?

True conservatives are not sitting about waiting for him to do anythin for us. I think we only want him to abide by his oath of office and not do anything TO us.

15 posted on 08/25/2002 1:49:50 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: WhiteGuy; Nephi; MissAmericanPie; Kobyashi1942
"How long must we subsist on manna and quail? Were we brought into the desert to die? Why doesn't Moses just strike the rock? We are tired of the journey. Are we there yet? With IINO's like Moses, we will never be able to take the Promised Land. There is no real difference between Moses and Pharoah, at least we know what we are getting in a golden calf."
16 posted on 08/25/2002 1:50:28 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Dane
"In other words, It's not good enough for WhiteGuy"

True

Is it good enough for you?

"even if W. implemented WhiteGuy's agenda 100% that WhiteGuy would still not be satisfied"

False

17 posted on 08/25/2002 1:51:35 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: WhiteGuy
False

Yeah and the moon is made of green cheese.

IMHO, if Bush implemented your agenda 150% you would still be whining.

If there is one thing I have learned about the far right(a term you will not disagree with about yourself) is that they are terminal whiners and see the glass as perpetually half empty. People who always complain about every minute thing about policy, semantics, the tie a pubblie is wearing.

IMHO, maybe the addage "talk is cheap" should be changed to "complaining is cheap" in regards to yourself.

18 posted on 08/25/2002 1:59:18 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Kobyashi1942
Kobayashi 1942 wrote that if Al Gore was POTUS:

"Well, for one thing, we'd be looking at a 40 to 50 seat gain in the house and perhaps 5 to 6 senate seats picked up by the Republicans. Oh yeah, aside from the paltry tax cut of 2001, we'd have pretty much the same liberal agenda that Bush advocated.

Now though, we're going to lose the house and the dem's will pick up even more seats in the Senate. At that point Bush is a lame-duck President who will sign almost all the liberal legislation in a vain attempt to get reelected."

Wow! Such optimism.

So, we should all vote for Liberals for a couple generations, let them totally f*** everything up, 'cause "that'll show everyone!" how wrong Liberals are, and THEN we would all vote Conservative??? Should THAT be our plan??

Don't forget to tell us where the Kool-Aid is.

19 posted on 08/25/2002 1:59:56 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Well, he kept Gore out of the Whitehouse. I know I'll be forever grateful for that.
20 posted on 08/25/2002 2:02:54 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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