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Interesting piece from the Ottawa Citizen, FYI...
1 posted on 08/25/2002 4:32:27 AM PDT by badfreeper
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Ultimately, concludes Mr. Juneau-Katsuya, we need to extinguish the hatred and anger that can inspire people to fly commercial airliners into skyscrapers.

You can only do that when you're dealing with sane people. In this case, we're not.

Here's a happy thought from Middle East expert Daniel Pipes:

Islamists constitute a small but significant minority of Muslims, perhaps 10 to 15 per cent of the population. Many of them are peaceable in apearance, but they all must be considered potential killers.

How does 400,000 to 800,000 -- in our country -- potential killers sound?

Pipes article here...

Muslim population in America

Meet an Islamist -- peaceable in appearance, killer

America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
New Link: Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)

2 posted on 08/25/2002 4:46:16 AM PDT by JCG
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And we may, in fact, being making a classic military mistake

Somebody needs to yell at the editor for that one and a couple more little grammatical errors in the article. That's all it ever takes to discredit a reasonable article and make the writer seem an amateur.

I found the article to be interesting though. Particularly when thinking about the embassies world wide. Do you ever stop to think just how much our embassy buildings themselves are "ambassadors" in the world? Foreigners are looking at a little piece of America when they take a gander at our embassy.

Certainly, we can make them impregnable. But then the message the fellow on the street gets is not of an "open and free" society but one that must go to such elaborate measures to protect itself- a sort of self imposed restrictiveness. We could put the embassies underground- completely sheltering them from attack from the open street- the message there of America not being strong but in hiding.

Our embassies must be very cleverly thought out. They must combine expressing our values of freedom and freedom of individual movement (among others) while portraying our strength as well. They must inspire but also instill awe at our power. And they must still fit into the city in which they reside. Tricky bit of engineering but a worthwhile one I believe.

It might be an expensive endeavor but the gov't might look into completely relocating our embassies in every nation. And not just relocating to another existing building but rather have a structure built by an American architect. The buildings' facades could be designed to blend in with existing architecture but the core structures of the buildings would be designed specifically to counter all manner of attacks. They would have to sit on an appropriately large enough plot of land to allow for plenty of underground building and expansion, helicopter takeoffs/landings and also to allow for a proper ground defense to be implemented in case of attack. Corners of the building angled so that key marksmen from inside can protect large swathes of the property, lots of open kill zone, hedges built over concrete blast baffles- this sort of thing.

It is an interesting project to think about- even if only for your own personal imagination. Modern day castles if you will.

3 posted on 08/25/2002 5:35:21 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: badfreeper
"We can turn Afghanistan into a parking lot. We can turn Iraq into a parking lot. That will not solve the issue.

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Maybe not, but it's a good start.

6 posted on 08/25/2002 7:16:27 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: badfreeper
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7 posted on 08/25/2002 7:17:26 AM PDT by dennisw
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Let's turn chechnya into a parking lot.
8 posted on 08/25/2002 8:53:23 AM PDT by MarMema
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A big concern I have is that just because things are somewhat quiet re: terrorists, it just might be they are in the process of big planning against us. I have read from many reliable sources on the net ( as I'm sure many of you also did) that 9/11 was months and possibly a few yrs in the planning before it was implemented. Scary, indeed.
10 posted on 08/25/2002 9:05:40 AM PDT by DreamWeaver
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Al Quaeda, Hamas, PLO, Islamic Jihad, et al.

Need to be hunted down to a man and exterminated. What they call themselves does not matter. And the terrorist states which support them--the list is well-known--need to be crushed into particles of dust.

Not today--yesterday.

--Boris

11 posted on 08/25/2002 10:14:45 AM PDT by boris
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