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AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS? (a question for Freepers)
August 22nd, 2002 | Sabertooth

Posted on 08/22/2002 7:04:53 AM PDT by Sabertooth

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To: hchutch; Sabertooth; WRhine; Twodees; FreedomFriend; Reaganwuzthebest; Joe Hadenuf; janetgreen; ...
I have no problem with your disagreeing with me.

It's your transparent arguments, your brother's biased opinions, twisted poll results, Bush's half quotes taken out of context and a poll from the LIBERAL, New York Times you use to try to win an argument.

Look at all of the questions I've asked you that you're trying to avoid with this new tactic of false indignation.

-If they read any of Bush's COMPLETE quotes, in context, would a Republican conservative get the impression Bush was going to propose an amnesty or a 245(i) extension, after he was elected?

-Your biased brother's opinion that a small percentage of Mexicans believe that the American Southwest belongs to them and therefore Aztlan/Reconquista is a fringe group trumps a Zogby poll that says it's more like 58%?

If the respondents to one of your polls had only increasing or decreasing immigration levels to choose from, it would be 49% decreasing versus 48% increasing? A virtual dead heat? The whole 36% that said stay the same would then vote to increase immigration rates?

A liberal New York Time's poll proves that immigration isn't a concern for any voters? Not even conservative voters, because the New York Times doesn't ask a question about it? That's not a false, totally misleading and grossly, erroneous assumption?

It's your tactics I have a problem with, Chutch.

Does anyone, but liberals, use them?

681 posted on 08/24/2002 12:52:24 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: WRhine
http://www.adl.org/presrele/DiRaB_41/3680_41.asp
682 posted on 08/24/2002 12:52:34 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Marine Inspector
Ok.
683 posted on 08/24/2002 12:53:28 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: VA Advogado
The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.

LOL, nothing like referencing a left-wing, politically correct organization to buttress you warped views. Says much about your political orientation.

684 posted on 08/24/2002 12:56:17 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
IS FAIR FAIR?

http://www.adl.org/Civil_Rights/Is_Fair_Unfair.pdf
685 posted on 08/24/2002 12:56:30 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: WRhine
At least I'm not reduced to using bogus polls to back mine up.
686 posted on 08/24/2002 12:57:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WRhine
LOL, nothing like referencing a left-wing, politically correct organization to buttress you warped views. Says much about your political orientation.

Do you have a problem with a historicly fine jewish civil rights group? The Holocaust didnt happen right WRhine McKinny?

687 posted on 08/24/2002 12:58:24 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
I don't think I've whined at all. I've been angry about some of the shots taken at me by others on this thread, but I'm not a drama queen or whiner.
688 posted on 08/24/2002 12:58:54 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Howlin
At least I'm not reduced to using bogus polls to back mine up.

What Bogus polls?

689 posted on 08/24/2002 12:59:17 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: hchutch
I've been angry about some of the shots taken at me by others on this thread, but I'm not a drama queen or whiner.

you are both.

690 posted on 08/24/2002 1:00:27 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: WRhine
If you're quoting Zogby, especially with regard to immigrants, you're not being accurate.
691 posted on 08/24/2002 1:01:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WRhine
In recent years, FAIR has: • acknowledged and defended having received grants reportedly totaling around $600,000 from the Pioneer Fund, which has been described by The New York Times as having been established for the express purpose of promoting research into eugenics, and which has sponsored projects based on the notion that Blacks are genetically less intelligent than whites.
692 posted on 08/24/2002 1:02:41 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
Really, all you posted was an opinion piece containing a series of unsourced and unquoted slams against FAIR that you'd like to agree with.

By evidence, I don't mean an opinion that echoes yours, I mean actual, sourced quotations from FAIR that you hold to be racist, about which we can form our own opinions.



693 posted on 08/24/2002 1:08:13 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Nice backpeddle. Careful you don't trip over your own sheet.
694 posted on 08/24/2002 1:10:32 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
The Holocaust didnt happen right WRhine McKinny?

What is that supposed to mean? That if I disagree on some policy positions with a Jewish special interest group I am somehow anti-Jewish? You are a Creep. Take your cheap shots and low brow smears somewhere else JERK.

695 posted on 08/24/2002 1:13:02 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Sabertooth
I've freepmailed the URL for that post to you.
696 posted on 08/24/2002 1:13:12 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: VA Advogado
"Nice backpeddle."

Self-descriptive, if misspelled.

Anything to offer besides Leftist hearsay?




697 posted on 08/24/2002 1:18:57 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: VA Advogado
In recent years, FAIR has: • acknowledged and defended having received grants reportedly totaling around $600,000 from the Pioneer Fund, which has been described by The New York Times as having been established for the express purpose of promoting research into eugenics, and which has sponsored projects based on the notion that Blacks are genetically less intelligent than whites.

Oh this Pioneer Fund gave money to FAIR! What an expose! As reported in the New York Times mind you! The Bastion of Truth for all liberally minded people. Perhaps we should examine where the Democratic Party and their adjunct leftist special interest groups, that just happen to like open borders, get some of their money from too. Want to bet that a study here would show contributions from every radical, communist, subversive, America hating group under the sun? Or is that kind of support OK with you. Somehow I think it is.

698 posted on 08/24/2002 1:25:54 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
I am somehow anti-Jewish?

It hurts to be outted, doesn't it?

699 posted on 08/24/2002 1:26:51 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Sabertooth
It hurts to be outted, doesn't it?
700 posted on 08/24/2002 1:27:08 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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