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US Advisor Warns Of Armageddon
The Guardian | 08/16/02 | Julian Borger

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:17:38 PM PDT by Davea

US adviser warns of Armageddon

Julian Borger in Washington and Richard Norton-Taylor

Friday August 16, 2002

The Guardian

One of the Republican party's most respected foreign policy gurus yesterday appealed for President Bush to halt his plans to invade Iraq, warning of "an Armageddon in the Middle East". The outspoken remarks from Brent Scowcroft, who advised a string of Republican presidents, including Mr Bush's father, represented an embarrassment for the administration on a day it was attempting to rally British public support for an eventual war.

The US national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, yesterday spelled out what she called the "very powerful moral case" for toppling Saddam Hussein. "We certainly do not have the luxury of doing nothing," she told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. She said the Iraqi leader was "an evil man who, left to his own devices, will wreak havoc again on his own population, his neighbours and, if he gets weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them, all of us".

But while Ms Rice was making the case for a pre-emptive strike, the rumble of anxiety in the US was growing louder. A string of leading Republicans have expressed unease at the administration's determination to take on President Saddam, but the most damning critique of Mr Bush's plans to date came yesterday from Mr Scowcroft.

The retired general, who also advised Presidents Nixon and Ford, predicted that an attack on Iraq could lead to catastrophe.

"Israel would have to expect to be the first casualty, as in 1991 when Saddam sought to bring Israel into the Gulf conflict. This time, using weapons of mass destruction, he might succeed, provoking Israel to respond, perhaps with nuclear weapons, unleashing an Armageddon in the Middle East," Mr Scowcroft wrote in the Wall Street Journal.

The Israeli government has vowed it would not stand by in the face of attacks as it did in 1991, when Iraqi Scud missiles landed on Israeli cities. It claims it has Washington's backing for retaliation.

Mr Scowcroft is the elder statesman of the Republican foreign policy establishment, and his views are widely regarded as reflecting those of the first President Bush. The fierceness of his attack on current administration policy illustrates the gulf between the elder Bush and his son, who has surrounded himself with far more radical ideologues on domestic and foreign policy.

In yesterday's article, Mr Scowcroft argued that by alienating much of the Arab world, an assault on Baghdad, would halt much of the cooperation Washington is receiving in its current battle against the al-Qaida organisation.

"An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardise, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken," Mr Scowcroft wrote.

Both the American and British governments are expected to time a public relations effort to rebuff the critics and build public support in the immediate run-up to an invasion.

Senior Whitehall figures say that crucial in that effort will be evidence that President Saddam is building up Iraq's chemical biological warfare capability and planning to develop nuclear weapons.

The US defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, confirmed yesterday that the Pentagon was considering a change in the status of a navy pilot shot down over Iraq 11 years ago. He is currently classified as "missing in action".

There have been reports that Lieutenant-Commander Michael Speicher was still being held by Iraq.

If he was reclassified as a prisoner of war, it would represent an additional source of conflict between Washington and Baghdad.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,775532,00.html


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Armageddon? Not quite yet Mr. Scowcroft. But what's about to occur will seem like it. Many more targets in sight than Iraq. I suppose many folks will think it's Armageddon.
1 posted on 08/15/2002 7:17:38 PM PDT by Davea
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To: Davea
Wussies.....All of 'em.
2 posted on 08/15/2002 7:21:02 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Davea
Nevil Chamberlin anyone?
NeverGore
3 posted on 08/15/2002 7:23:56 PM PDT by nevergore
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To: Davea
The coward thinks the Arabs terrorists are helping us?

No wonder Saddam got to this point.

4 posted on 08/15/2002 7:26:25 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: nevergore
Two weeks ago the Guardian would have referred to Brent Scowcroft as a Cold Warrior reactionary neo-Fascist. Now, because he doesn't think it's time to attack Iraq, he's one of America's "most respected" statesmen.

This is just more Euro-weenie whining. And Scowcroft, like so many in 41's administration, is far too concerned with states breaking apart. Remember 41's "Chicken Kiev" speech, which was interpreted by 8/91 Soviet coup plotters as a signal that the US would stand aside? That was Scowcroft's philosophy in action--a vicious totalitarian state that's intact is preferable to the possibility of a fractured formerly totalitarian state.

5 posted on 08/15/2002 7:28:26 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Davea
It seems the war in washington to determine if we go to war has begun. I hope they reach a decision soon.
6 posted on 08/15/2002 7:28:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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I hope they reach a decision soon.

The decision has been made. The whining you hear in the press is the desperate attempt to reverse that decision.

7 posted on 08/15/2002 7:31:37 PM PDT by garbanzo
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To: Davea
Scowcroft makes no sense.

"This time, using weapons of mass destruction, [Saddam] might succeed..."

So, he has weapons of mass destruction. We should wait, then, until he uses them on somebody? Or uses them on us?

"Mr Scowcroft argued that by alienating much of the Arab world, an assault on Baghdad, would halt much of the cooperation Washington is receiving in its current battle against the al-Qaida organisation."

Halt what cooperation?

"An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardise, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken,"

Hussein sponsors and trains terrorists who conduct terrorism. How would taking a major source of terrorism out jeopardize, or destroy, our "global counterrorism campaign"?

Scowcroft's argument is so ill-thought that it almost has to be bogus. Could it have been conceived and solicited by the administration -- just one more chunk of disinformation aimed at Saddam, baited to hook the mainstream media?

8 posted on 08/15/2002 7:33:31 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Davea
The Guardian fails to list the "string of leading Republicans" other than Brent Scowcroft.

For one of the few times in it's history this leftist rag is bestowing it's favor on an American Republican. Like anybody on our side of the fence cares?

10 posted on 08/15/2002 7:36:35 PM PDT by Mariner
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The voices of reason are rising to block this insane unprovoked attack.

So we're supposed to wait patiently for the next attack before we do anything?

11 posted on 08/15/2002 7:36:53 PM PDT by garbanzo
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To: garbanzo
The decision has been made. The whining you hear in the press is the desperate attempt to reverse that decision.

Exactly. I wonder if they know their whining WILL NOT WORK.

12 posted on 08/15/2002 7:36:54 PM PDT by dighton
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The outspoken remarks from Brent Scowcroft, who advised a string of Republican presidents, including Mr Bush's father

This alone should exclude Scowcroft from being taken seriously.

13 posted on 08/15/2002 7:39:30 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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The fierceness of his attack on current administration policy illustrates the gulf between the elder Bush and his son, who has surrounded himself with far more radical ideologues on domestic and foreign policy.

Must be an editor's mistake here. I believe the term is rational thinkers.

14 posted on 08/15/2002 7:42:47 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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I am also certain that if Iraq uses WMD against Israel, that Israel will retaliate with nukes.

Yep, there's gonna be a big 'ol war a'right.

All the human infrastructure under Saddam knows this, therefore I don't believe he'll be around much longer. I'm convinced there will either be a big war, or Saddam will be removed from the inside and there will be only a small war.

Whatever the eventual circumstances, he and his sons are dead meat.

15 posted on 08/15/2002 7:44:40 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Jack-A-Roe
Scowcroft and our current Secy. of State also advised the elder Bush not to go on to Baghdad when the troops could have done so easily. The Gulf War was correctly deemed a "Triumph without Victory." Now we are not supposed to stop what could well be an attack on the US by terrorists with biological weapons supplied by Saddam??? Weird!
16 posted on 08/15/2002 7:57:50 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: michellcraig
You're right on target and I'll add my voice to your comments.

I find it interesting how those who argue against this war are automatically branded "wussies" and "cowards". I know for a fact that I am neither.

17 posted on 08/15/2002 7:59:10 PM PDT by The Duke
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I think Brent has the wrong target. If I was Bush, I'd go after Iran. Straight up. We already have Saddam pinned down.
Has anyone noticed the activity going on over in Iran?
And whoever heard of Iraqi 'leaders in exile' before this past weekend. Over half of them are Kurds. That's not Iraq. That's the other side of the desert.
No. I think we strike Iran. Hard and fast. I'm still pissed about '79.
The balance of power will then shift to Israel. Hands down.
Israel has to step up and be the new Ottoman Empire. First rule in Poly Sci is that there cannot be a vacuum.
Of course, the administration may have their own plan.
18 posted on 08/15/2002 8:05:55 PM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: Davea
Scowcroft is a dunderhead. He was wrong in '91 and wrong now. He is sure as heck no foreign policy guru. He wants to wait until it's too late.
19 posted on 08/15/2002 8:13:36 PM PDT by tomahawk
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"The voices of reason are rising to block this insane unprovoked attack. In fact, I'm convinced its all hot air. Iraq is a sovereign nation that hasn't crossed the line with anyone of reason. I hear the old wornout argument that they gassed there own people."

New here: michellcraig signed up 2002-06-20.

Voices of reason. You should be made to watch tapes of 9/11 24 hours a day for the next ten years.

20 posted on 08/15/2002 8:16:54 PM PDT by boris
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