Posted on 07/31/2002 5:20:31 AM PDT by fporretto
Hell Tpaine I doubt you ever gave your own mother a kind word.
Irony thy face is Tpaine. LOL
I am NOT a " RINO ". I am also NOT a " neocon "; which you have called me in the past. I am NOT a CINO ( Conservative in name only ); however, YOU are.
As to Jim 's new group,which you now keep touting : 1) it has NO name recognition, outside of this forum and not all that much here ! 2) it has absolutely NO track record ( because it's new ), so claiming any sort of power for it, is absurd . 3) since Jim Robinso has repeatedly come onto this , his very own forum, and claimed that he is supporting President Bush, as well as other GOP candidayes and is working to insure that the president has the majority in both Houses, one can infer , from these statements, of his, as well as from many others, that the constant Bushbashing and the continually nasty trashing of " regular " GOP supporters, by the fringers, are things which you are now purposefully leaving out of the equation., because it doesn't suit your agenda.
The rest of your juvenile and delusional little tirade, is beneath contempt, spurious libel, and doesn't deserve to be answered. So, why did I ? Because lurkers, who don't know any better, need to be told the truth. As for you ? You deserve to be ignored; nothing more. :-)
Exactly. It needs more exposure, thats why I'm 'touting' it. - You're helping here, - so thanks!
2) it has absolutely NO track record ( because it's new ), so claiming any sort of power for it, is absurd.
Wrong. -- The RLC has been part of the Republican Party for 10 years or so, maybe more. In any case, who claimed power? - You're just being absurd.
3) since Jim Robinson has repeatedly come onto this , his very own forum, and claimed that he is supporting President Bush, as well as other GOP candidayes and is working to insure that the president has the majority in both Houses, one can infer , from these statements, of his, as well as from many others, that the constant Bushbashing and the continually nasty trashing of " regular " GOP supporters, by the fringers, are things which you are now purposefully leaving out of the equation., because it doesn't suit your agenda.
My 'agenda' is getting government to obey the constitution. -- The RLC could help that happen. -- Your tired old 'politics as usual' stance is STOPPING that from happening, imo. -- I suspect JR may be coming around to that type of conclusion himself, thus, his support of the RLC and a new forum. You don't like it? -- Tell it to JR.
The federal government routinely violates the 2nd amendment which says that the government cannot regulate private firearm ownership (obviously doesn't apply to people in jail/prison). The federal government routinely violates the first amendment with its passage of copyright legislation that restricts academic publishing rights (even though the first amendment, having been passed after the copyright clause is supreme over the IP clause in the Constitution). Get real, the US Government routinely violates the Constitution. That doesn't mean that it is acceptable.
Willful ignorance is the bread and butter of Libertarianism.
TOP "TEN" CONSERVATIVE LIST based on 2001 Conservative Index scores published in The New American magazine:
US House
1. Rep. Tancredo (R-CO) 95%
2. Rep. Paul (R-TX) (former Libertarian) 92%
3. Rep. Schaefer (R-CO) 90%
4. Rep. Hostettler (R-IN) 88%
5. Rep. Royce (R-CA) 84%
6. Rep. Rohrbacher (R-CA) 83%
7. Rep. Sensenbrenner (R-WI) 81%
8. Rep. Duncan (R-TN) 79%
9. Rep. Barr (R-GA) Rep. Goode (R-VA) (former Democrat) Rep. Pombo (R-CA) all tied for 9th place with a 78% conservative rating.
US Senate
1. Sen. John Kyl (R-AZ) 74%
2. Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC) 72%
3. Sen. Robert Smith (R-NH), Sen. James Inhofe & Sen Voinovich (R-OH) 70%
4. Sen. Strom Thurmond 69% (former Democrat)
5. Sen Phil Gramm (R-TX), Sen. Campbell (R-CO) (both former Democrats) & Sen. Frank Murkowski at 67%
6. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS), Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) & Sen. Bob Bennett (R-UT) at 65%
To provide context, as a general rule conservatives are anyone that has a Conservative Index score around 65% or better. Moderate conservatives fall into the 50-65% range, moderates in the 40s and liberals in the 30s and below so the listing of conservative Senators above is fairly comprehensive while the more numerous House of Reps scores above omits many good conservatives of which there tend to be around 35-40, in this case all of whom are probably Republicans.
Ron Paul almost always scores as the top conservative followed by Dana Rohrabacher and Bob Barr in the House. In the Senate, Bob Smith (a personal hero of mine) usually scores as the top conservative and Don Nickles who is running against Trent Lott for Senate Minority Leader usually scores in the top ten. The Senate conservative numbers were unusually low presumably due to the fact that the GOP supported more liberal "bipartisan" legislation than normal. The other surprising thing is the fact that Rep. Tancredo (R-CO) scored #1 conservative in the house besting even traditional conservative champion, Ron Paul. If I am correct in assuming that this is the same Rep. Tancredo that has been leading the charge against Bush on Bush's indefensible support of open-borders immigration, then we have got a new veritable conservative hero/icon on our hands in the House of Reps!!
39 posted on 4/26/02 2:30 PM Pacific by rightwing2
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Bircher bunk.
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