[zoyd]

"Yes, we may MAKE a lot of money as lawmakers, but we SPEND a lot of money as lawmakers, so it all works out!"

[AdamSelene235]

rank-and-file members of Congress

The author doesn't seem to know much about the English language.

They aren't rank and file, they are government supremacists.

[LostTribe]

Forget the corporate leaders, here is the TRUE criminal class.

[Moonman62]

All that spending is hard work.

[Blue Screen of Death]

Well, the arugment usually goes something like this..."if we don't pay more, we will not be able to attract talented people to run for congress". Which brings up the question of the talent of the incumbent making that argument. It seems if this argument is true, then the ones voting to increase the pay (remember they ran for office under the old pay scale that would not attract talented people) are not qualified to make the decision.

[Mo1]

Here is a question ...

HAS CONGRESS FUNDED THE MILITARY YET????

OUR MEN & WOMEN IN THE SERVICE DESERVE A PAY RAISE .. NOT THESE MORONS IN CONGRESS THAT CAN ONLY WORK 3 DAYS A WEEK

OUR MEN & WOMEN SERVE OUR COUNTRY AND PUT THEIR BUTTS ON THE LINE SO THAT WE CAN BE FREE

AND ... THESE MOROONS BEST NOT RAISE MY TAXES .. BECAUSE IF I HAVE TO TAKE A PAY CUT .. SO DO THEY

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Thank you for my rant

[Tacis]

Their GROSS incomes have decreased as many corporations have ccut back on congressional bribes. Sure, the labor unions are still paying the democrats ubder the table, but even that revenue stream is dropping. No, these folks have a life style that demands more cash and since they can just pass a bill that increases their own pay and the resultant pensions that their salaries drive, why not? Wouldn't you?

[IronJack]

Nothing's too good for the hired help, eh?

In an election year, you would think a pay raise would be political suicide, wouldn't ya? But they'll sneak it through in the middle of the night or by appending it onto an ag subsidy bill for Burkina Faso, or by phrasing it so that it passes by default.

If you tried to cheat like the Congess does, you'd be in jail.

[AngrySpud]

I'm a county government employee. I have no problem with a cost-of-living increase (2% this year). Anything beyond that ought to be a MERIT pay increase. Lotsa guvmint employees are on such a system, myself included.

It's been many, many years since Congress was entitled to anything other than cost-of-living increases.

[IronJack]

a 258-156 procedural vote at the opening of that debate effectively prevented lawmakers from offering an amendment to kill the raise.

Never mind. Passage by default.

[Boonie Rat]

Congress critters make more than ninety-five percent (95%)of their constituents make. And that doesn't include bribes, theft, haircuts, junkets to all parts of the globe, et. What's wrong with this picture? Get a rope.

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

[timydnuc]

They want a raise to conduct "business as usual" that wastes, in an audit, of the NEA amounting to 500 Million....MILLION dollars. The NEA can't find it, as so many other government agencies, just can't find it. That is my money, and it's your money, but they don't care, AND they want a raise? Sick, diluted, power obsessed elitists. Then they attack private business. You want a shining example of pi$$ poor corperate management, look to the federal government.

Any congress critter that votes for this should be recalled....PERIOD!

[altair]

Under a 1989 law, congressional pay raises, determined by a complicated formula that includes a measure of private industry employment costs, go into effect automatically unless lawmakers vote to block it.

How convenient.

[Lazamataz]

Presidents used to get $150,000 a year not so long ago.

Sure pays to be the king(s).

[NativeNewYorker]

I have a modest proposal:

Every lawmaker's pay should be pegged to the stock market.

The broadest measure of stocks' value is the Wilshire 5000, which includes essentially 100% of the traded equities in the US. As such, it suffers from little sector or capitalization bias.

The Wilshire closed at 8365 today (7/18). Times 20 is 167,300.

Set each lawmaker' pay at 20 times THE PRIOR YEAR'S AVERAGE.

They'll have every incentive to keep taxes and interest rates low, with no incentive to ramp things up just in time for the elections.

[brat]

Don't you wish we could do that? Must be nice.

[WyldKard]

Wow..this must be the only truly bipartisian issue out there. :(

[RAT Patrol]

Maybe I'm the only one but I don't think $20,000 over ten years is unreasonable, nor do I think $155,000 is too much for the job required of them. My gripe is when they spend money to buy votes. That's what bugs me.

[Lord_Baltar]

Wow, big surprise.

The only surprise here is that these crooks didn't vote themselves a 10k per year raise, instead of 5k.

[dogbyte12]

I will not be too concerned until Congressional pay is more than what a utility infielder for the Montreal Expos makes.

I think I would want that much money to have a home in two areas. The only people who don't have to worry about this are those who live close enough like in Virginia. Pay is not the issue, it is performance. Until we start merit pay in the congress, salaries have to be this high, or we will be stuck with a bunch of wealthy trial lawyers who can afford the hit in income to be in congress.

[gcruse]

Pay the Man

Give them the money, it's stole fair and square.
We are the idiots elected them there.
We send them as lefties and righties, but drat!
They end up Republican and Democrat.

[Itzlzha]

Who can provide the vote breakdown on the override?

I want to see who I need to campaign against!!!! I want to see how many Multi-Millionaires just upped their salary at MY expense!!!!

And I'M SUPPOSED TO MAKE DO...WHILE THEY PICK MY POCKET?!?!

If these STUPID (R)'s were to get a raise based on performance, they'd OWE ME $$$$!!!

Time to brush off the famous Jefferson quote...y'know, the one a bout a "little revolution now and then" being a good thing...

[gunshy]

I think we ought to pay congress people a million dollars, tax free, a year just to stay in their districts and not pass any new laws.

[jackbill]

The congressional raise is estimated to be about 3.3 percent. The Treasury bill for the fiscal year starting Oct. 1 includes a 4.1 percent cost-of-living increase for civilian federal employees,

You folks can raise all kinds of hell about Congress getting a $5000 pay increase, which amounts to $2.675 million. Yet you don't say a damned word about a 4.1% pay increase for millions of federal bureaucrats, when the cost of living increases only by about 2%. The cost of that is a hell of a lot more than a piddling $2.675 million.

Does anyone believe that the cost of living increase for Social Security recipients will be anywhere near 4.1% next year?

Does anyone care that the federal pensions will go up by 4.1%, along with the bureaucrats' pay?

Does anyone believe that there should be a limit????

[concerned about politics]

Someone said Washington couldn't afford to give us tax slaves any relief. I guess they were right. The politicians are sucking it all up for themselves.

[Desdemona]

Can't Congressional pay be based on merit? Please?

[Jesse]

The only lawmaker to speak against the raise was Rep. James Matheson, D-Utah. "We can't afford it, last year's government surpluses are long gone, we are swimming in red ink, we are fighting a war. We shouldn't be asking the taxpayers to pay us more," he said.

Not ONE Republican spoke out against this?

Meanwhile, back at what's left of the ranch, the stock market is tanking, 3 trillion dollars of wealth has evaporated, and all our so called conservative, fiscally responsible Republican House can do is vote to spend more money, on more entitlements (prescription drug bribe for medicare) and give themselves raises.

And they still find time to send me fundraising letters begging me to help them stay in control or else...what? The democrats will spend more? How?

I've gone from being a grassroots GOP supporter and get out the voter type, to opposing ALL the Republicrats and RINOS. Vote all of them out.

[Flyer]

increasing their salaries about $5,000

And aren't they about to start a 30 day vacation? Heck, I'll give 'em a raise if they take MORE vacations - say about 350 days a year

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[Mr. Jeeves]

Pay them all $5 million a year but make them fund their campaigns entirely out of their own pockets.

[Reagan is King]

They think the treasury is just a bottomless pit of money. It's hard to tell the Pubs from the Dems anymore. SPEND SPEND SPEND while the economy is hurting. The Dems are loving the fact that we are growing the deficit again so they can campaign on it. I know a lot of it is just BS but the public believes the sound bites. It's unbelievable that we make it so easy for them.

[breakem]

Predictions for this year are for zero inflation and these folls get a pay raise.

[rockfish59]

After 20 years in the Laborer's union, I had to settle for a disability pension.
I live on $828 a month. I just got a $48 a month raise after 4 years.
I think I can buy that new Towncar now!!

99% of the gov't workers can kiss my @$$!

[Dick Bachert]

Now that John McRino and his buddies have performed THIS wonderful public service (CFR!), perhaps he will move on to the NEXT STEP and show us all that CFR is NOT actually The Incumbent Protection Act?

(PREGNANT PAUSE HERE!)

ROFLMAO!!!!

McRino has CLEARLY been spending waaayyyyy too much time in his wife’s beer warehouse.

With my tongue only HALF in my cheek this time, I submit this for your edification and consideration:

[FreeAtlanta]

bass turds, this really should be put to a national vote. I would like to select what I think these people should be paid.

[Jonathon Spectre]

BLAM!

[Bill Davis FR]

LET THE STATES DETERMINE AND PAY THEIR SALARIES...

[Memother]

Nice job - pick the figure that you want to be paid and give it to yourself - lovely