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Israel Gave Major Aid to Hamas
United Press International | 24 February 2001 | Richard Sale

Posted on 06/30/2002 12:46:35 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright

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To: vance
Remember when a topic was posted on FR and everyoe would run off to research it? Now whenever there is a thread on Israel posted which is the slighest bit negative, the first few comments are "prove it!", "source isn't credible", "old news", "this is antisemitic"...yadda...yadda...yadda.

I don't know what the case is but it sense to me Israel might have encouraged Hamas at one time. Most countries do play their opposition off each other. It would be surprising if Israel had not.

Be more enlightening if people tried to get at the truth rather than engage in knee-jerk Ann Lewis/Sidney Blumenthal type defenses.

41 posted on 06/30/2002 6:56:21 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Cachelot
This is fascinating. I found the same article & byline with a June 18, 2002 dateline at this url:

http://www.guerrillanews.com/index.html

42 posted on 06/30/2002 7:09:39 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Old news...so what? The lessons of history don't yellow with age and right now this story couldn't be more timely. If you think the story is wrong, please provide some evidence.

I apologize if my short statement was misleading. I meant it to mean that " this is old news, it has been known for sometime, VALIDATING IT ! I agree this story is timely and I also wish it would be more well known to the masses that don't know it, or to the ones who refuse to believe it.

Peace :):)

43 posted on 06/30/2002 8:58:59 PM PDT by DreamWeaver
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To: LarryLied
Ever since 9/11, I've had the feeling I'm in Ann Lewis/Sidney Blumenthal Land when reading these Israel threads.

To be honest with you I really try to avoid these threads, knowing before reading them, it is going to be the same old mantras, and God Forbid anything negative is said you are flamed and verbally attacked. I would have no problem with the message being attacked, but instead the message is attacked.

I find it very strange that we Americans on MANY threads complain about our govt, politicians, and have little faith on what they tell us. That does not make us anti Americans, does it ? Yet should anyone crticize Israel, we are automatically labeled anti Israel, anti semetic, anti jewish, which is starting to wear very thin.

44 posted on 06/30/2002 9:07:56 PM PDT by DreamWeaver
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To: DreamWeaver; Catspaw
Check out reply #42. That is a favorite tactic now. Do a google search and find the same thing posted here on some nutball or racist site, then make a big stink about it. Never mind that it didn't come from that site, it is on a hundred legitimate sites and anyone can put anything up on a website. This is classic McCarthyism-- guilt by the most tenuous association.

Doesn't even have to be an article. Use a name, a term or a string of words and some on these Israeli threads will search google all night trying to tie you into something which you are not.

45 posted on 06/30/2002 11:39:11 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Use a name, a term or a string of words and some on these Israeli threads will search google all night

You mean, like when you claimed to have "invented" the term "holocaustism"? Geez, mr. Lied, it takes only a split second to get that term from every holocoust-denier/Nazi/history-revision site on the web (and only from them), and to tie you neatly to what you are :)).

Aryan.

46 posted on 07/01/2002 5:51:19 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: DreamWeaver
I would have no problem with the message being attacked, but instead the message is attacked.

I see. This must be very difficult for you.

47 posted on 07/01/2002 6:07:38 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: LarryLied
You are the only one here who reminds me of Ann Lewis or Sidney Blumenthal. Slime-masters.
48 posted on 07/01/2002 6:08:37 AM PDT by vance
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Silly? Perhaps. Do you have evidence to prove that the story is wrong? Love to see them.

Do you have evidence to prove I am not really Elvis Presley ? Love to see it.
49 posted on 07/01/2002 6:13:36 AM PDT by pyx
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Do you have evidence to prove that the story is wrong right? Other than itself, of course.
50 posted on 07/01/2002 6:14:25 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Cachelot
********************** CORRECTION *************

It should have read:

I would have no problem with the message being attacked, but instead the messanger is attacked.

51 posted on 07/01/2002 6:37:16 AM PDT by DreamWeaver
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To: rdb3
No....I don't have evidence that Israel is fighting Hamas either other than what I see on T.V. An accusation has been made by a credible source and it deserves to be at least taken seriously. The ball is now in your court.
52 posted on 07/01/2002 7:02:04 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: DreamWeaver
Peace to you too....I guess I am also on the hair trigger when I post stuff like this. Plus we are getting non-arguments such as, "can you prove it is right," etc.
53 posted on 07/01/2002 7:04:13 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Cachelot
I notice that you haven't provided one piece of evidence against the story which is entirely believeable. After all, many countries have engaged in Machevillian (so called real politik) policies such as the U.S. during the U.S. period aiding Bin Laden's pals. What should Israel be any different? Yet, your attitude seems to be speak no evil, hear no evil, think no evil.
54 posted on 07/01/2002 7:07:03 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
The ball is now in your court.

No, it's not, either. I'm not making a claim one way or the other. I'm pointing out that you don't have evidence that it is true, yet you want others to refute it. Therefore, I asked you if you had evidence that the story is indeed true. You said you don't. Know what that means? Stalemate and impasse. Anything else is pure conjecture.

55 posted on 07/01/2002 7:07:24 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Alouette
If a credible source makes a charge that I am guilty of those charges, these charges would deserve to be taken seriously and answered. Has any credible source made such a charge. If not, what is *your* evidence to *these* charges made by a credible source (namely a story from the UPI)?
56 posted on 07/01/2002 7:10:39 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
I notice that you haven't provided one piece of evidence against the story which is entirely believeable

I notice that you haven't provided one piece of evidence for the story which is to be found on no responsible/reputable outlet, only on nazi/kook outlets.

Unbelievable.

57 posted on 07/01/2002 7:15:16 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: rdb3
I don't know whether the story is true. It may be false. We do not have a stalemate. A credible charge has been made by a credible source. You ask me for evidence that the story is true. I would be glad to accept evidence that it is false. Where is it? Do you care? Apparently, you are only interested in playing games rather than actually examining the facts.
58 posted on 07/01/2002 7:18:33 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: DreamWeaver
I would have no problem with the message being attacked, but instead the messanger is attacked.

Lol. Sure looked like a Freudian slip to me :)).

59 posted on 07/01/2002 7:18:45 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Austin Willard Wright
A credible charge has been made by a credible source.

So, what is you grounds for claiming that the charge is "credible"? And that the source is "credible"?

Is it that the charge is found on no reputable news-source, or is it that the Sale guy is found on Nazi outlets? I'm sure your answer, if any, would be most interesting ;).

60 posted on 07/01/2002 7:22:50 AM PDT by Cachelot
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