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Where do we get such men?...
1 posted on 06/06/2002 7:25:19 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad
The 29th division was the first to hit the beach and they were a NATIONAL GUARD unit.
2 posted on 06/06/2002 7:37:41 AM PDT by 2banana
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To: g'nad
Where do we get such men?...

From the History books. Few and far between today.

3 posted on 06/06/2002 7:38:30 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: g'nad
a bump for the finest
5 posted on 06/06/2002 7:58:21 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: g'nad

8 posted on 06/06/2002 8:22:12 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: g'nad
Where do we get such men?...

That's the line that always comes into my mind when I read/hear of these events.

I know the line as spoken by the commander (played by Frederich March?) in the film
The Bridges At Toko-Ri; is it actually from some original source?
9 posted on 06/06/2002 8:22:44 AM PDT by VOA
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To: psyop
Great article, I think you'll find some quotes you can use...
11 posted on 06/06/2002 8:36:17 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad
THANKS to S.L.A. Marshall and g'nad for such great reading material. The American soldier/airman/sailor/marine is the guarantor of our liberties. God bless them.
12 posted on 06/06/2002 8:44:36 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: g'nad
My brother-in-law was a Lt. in the first wave (I forget the division--it was prominent in The Longest Day). Just before the ramp came down, the Capt. told him to get to the back of the boat and make sure all the men got out. The Capt. was killed along with a great many of the men immediately by machine gun fire. My BIL survived the carnage, the Battle of the Bulge and capture by the Germans. Came out a Major and was highly decorated (when he came back from the war, the NY Times even had a picture of him getting off the plane).

On June 6, 1994 (50th Anniversary) I sent him a big flower arrangement in commemoration of his buddies that still lie there.

13 posted on 06/06/2002 8:55:15 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: g'nad; johnny7
Where do we get such men?...

I don't know, but my uncle was one of them too.

My uncle was in the 1st Infantry Division, the Big Red One, which was among those in the first wave, and he survived (in fact he lived for 50 more years). They fought their way up the hills there, through the town, and all the way to Paris, where they were among the first soldiers to march through Paris, when it was liberated.

Then they fought their way through Belgium, and marched into Liege when it was liberated. There was also a famous battle at a bridge though I'm not sure which one. Then they liberated a concentration camp in Germany (I'm trying to find out which one though I think it could have been Dachau from what I'm reading, but still not sure). But they were so appalled when they opened up that camp, that after capturing the guards, they marched back into the village nearby and forced the villagers at gunpoint to go into the camp to see what was going on near where they were living.

He said later that up to that point he had been feeling conflicted about shooting at the Germans, as he was himself a 2nd generation German-American (his grandparents had emigrated at least 80 years before) and was worried that he had been shooting at cousins. But after that camp experience, he no longer cared about that, and no longer felt German in any way. He felt American.

My uncle would almost never talk about it, though my sister was able to get only a small amount out of him. And some I've learned just by reading about the history of the Big Red One. He died just a few years ago.

14 posted on 06/06/2002 8:58:02 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: g'nad
Here's an interesting website about the First with some quotes from it. (And I see I'm wrong about the march through Paris! They didn't make that one.)

1st Infantry Division

On D-Day, June 6,1944, the Big Red One stormed ashore at Omaha Beach. Soon after H-Hour, the Division's 16th Regiment was fighting for its life on a strip of beach near Coleville-sur-Mer that had been marked the "Easy Red" on battle maps. Within two hours, the decimated unit huddled behind the seawall. The beach was so congested with the dead and dying, there was no room to land reinforcements. Col. George Taylor, commander of the 16th Infantry Regt., told his men, "Two kinds of people are staying on this beach! The dead and those who are going to die! Now, let's get the hell out of here!" Slowly, the move inland got underway.

A German blockhouse above the beach became a command post named "Danger Forward."

The Division moved through the Normandy Hedgerows. The Division liberated Liege, Belgium, and pushed to the German border, crossing through the fortified Siegfried line. The 1st Inf. Div. attacked the first major German city, Aachen, and after days of bitter fighting, the German commander surrendered the city on Oct. 21, 1944.

The Division continued its push into Germany, crossing the Rhine River. On Dec. 16, 24 enemy divisions, 10 of which were armored, launched a massive counterattack in the Ardennes sector, resulting in what became known as the Battle of the Bulge. On Jan. 15, 1945, the First Infantry attacked and penetrated the Siegfried line for the second time and occupied the Remagen bridgehead. On Easter Sunday, April 1, 1945, the Division marched 150 miles to the east of Siegen. On April 8, the Division crossed the Weser river into Czechoslovakia. The war was over May 8, 1945.

At the end of World War II, the Division had suffered 21,023 casualties and 43,743 men had served in its ranks. Its soldiers had won a total of 20,752 medals and awards, including 16 Congressional Medals of Honor. Over 100,000 prisoners had been taken.

Following the war, the First Division remained in Germany as occupation troops, until 1955, when the Division moved to Fort Riley, Kan.

16 posted on 06/06/2002 9:04:22 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: g'nad
May we never forget!


18 posted on 06/06/2002 9:05:43 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: g'nad
I read about the men who landed there. When asked if they were heroes, they responded, "No, but I served with heroes."
19 posted on 06/06/2002 9:05:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: g'nad
Where do we get such men?...

Look around you. They are everywhere, just waiting for leadership. They are just ordinary men who muster the courage to do an extraordinary job.

21 posted on 06/06/2002 9:09:04 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: g'nad
"Watching him made men of us."

Ah, the eloquence.

30 posted on 06/06/2002 9:35:10 AM PDT by Taliesan
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To: g'nad
Bump!!!!!!!!!! Thanks..........a GOOD read. God bless those men.

My dad (who died three years ago) was in the Pacific Theater on a mine sweeper clearing the approaches to the beaches for "island-hopping".

32 posted on 06/06/2002 10:07:42 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: g'nad
A nice tribute. My father was with the 79th Infantry in the second wave at Utah Beach. While not quite the meatgrinder of Omaha Beach, there evidently were quite a few casualities there as well. Dad wouldn't talk about it either, until one day when I guess he thought I was ready to hear it, and then only said, in response to my queries about what it was like and what he saw there, that is was just nothing but "debris and bodies". I am not and never will be the man he was in terms of courage and honesty and sense of duty to country and family, but I will keep him in my heart and honor his memory, and that of those like him.
35 posted on 06/06/2002 11:13:27 AM PDT by chimera
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To: g'nad
Outstanding piece. I've read many accounts of that written by everyone from Ryan to Stephans. None of them came close to that description. Thanks for the ping
37 posted on 06/06/2002 12:11:10 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: g'nad
"They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old. Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning we shall remember them."
42 posted on 06/06/2002 2:51:35 PM PDT by voiceofreason4344
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Late nite vanity BUMP!
43 posted on 06/06/2002 6:12:01 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad
God Bless our fathers!
44 posted on 06/06/2002 7:35:17 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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