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Sept. 11 Suspect May Be Relative of '93 Plot Leader [Yousef]
New York Times ^ | June 4 ,2002 | JAMES RISEN

Posted on 06/04/2002 7:20:42 PM PDT by The Raven

WASHINGTON, June 4 — United States intelligence officials said today that they had concluded that a possible relative of Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, who coordinated the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 and a later unsuccessful plot to bomb American airliners over the Pacific, played a pivotal role in planning the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

The man described as a possible relative, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, 37, a Kuwaiti, is now believed to have been a leading figure in Osama bin Laden's Qaeda network who helped plan the attacks, officials said.

The assessment that Mr. Mohammed played a significant role in the attacks provides a new and direct link between the hijackings last year and the failed airline plot by Mr. Yousef's group in 1995. The estimate also suggests a connection between the first attack on the World Trade Center and its destruction.

Mr. Mohammed has been indicted in the United States on charges that he was involved in the January 1995 plot, led by Mr. Yousef, to bomb American planes flying between Southeast Asia and the United States. The F.B.I. has placed him on its list of most wanted terrorists. Officials said he was believed to be in Afghanistan or living nearby.

Since Sept. 11, many American experts have pointed out the parallels between the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and the "Manila plot," Mr. Yousef's plan to bomb up to 12 planes. An alternative plot considered by Mr. Yousef's group was to hijack the planes, instead of bombing them, and crash them into prominent American buildings, including the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley, Va.

The plot was foiled after Philippine authorities arrested accomplices and found Mr. Yousef's laptop computer, which had information about his plans. Mr. Yousef escaped. He was tracked down and arrested in Pakistan and returned to the United States, where he was tried and convicted in the Manila plot and the first attack on the trade center.

For many years, the C.I.A. and Federal Bureau of Investigation were not certain that there was a direct connection between Mr. Yousef and Al Qaeda. They had a shared radical Islamic ideology and used similar terrorist tactics.

But the trade center bombing in 1993 occurred before American investigators began to see signs that Al Qaeda was emerging as a major threat. The Manila conspiracy was also not believed to be an operation of Al Qaeda.

United States intelligence officials said today that Mr. Mohammed seemed to have had a significant operational role in planning the attacks on Sept. 11, perhaps just below Mr. bin Laden and his three top lieutenants. But officials did not provide details about his involvement in planning Sept. 11 or how they had determined his role.

The new evidence of Mr. Mohammed's role in the attacks is certain to prompt a reassessment of the connections between Mr. Yousef and Mr. bin Laden.

The evidence could also help explain why Al Qaeda decided to attack the trade center again, to try to finish the job that Mr. Yousef started nearly nine years earlier.

In recent months, American counterintelligence officials have identified a small group of other Al Qaeda lieutenants as the crucial figures behind the Sept. 11 attacks. They include Mohammed Atef, the military chief of Al Qaeda, who died in November in an American bombing raid in Afghanistan; Abu Zubaydah, 30, a Palestinian held by the United States; and Ayman al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian radical and Mr. bin Laden's top deputy.

It is also unclear how close a relative Mr. Mohammed is of Mr. Yousef, who is in the federal penitentiary in Florence, Colo.

In 1995, American authorities first accused Mr. Mohammed of working with Mr. Yousef in the 1993 bombing. In 1998, Mr. Mohammed was indicted by a federal grand jury in Manhattan in connection with the Manila plot.

Mr. Mohammed has been described by authorities as often wearing a beard and glasses, as well as being slightly overweight.

The authorities have also accused him of taking part in a test run of the Pacific bombing plot on a flight from the Philippines to Tokyo. An explosion on that flight killed a Japanese executive.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; balkans
Can't we just round up Islamic fundamentalists?
1 posted on 06/04/2002 7:20:42 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven

New pic from CNN.
2 posted on 06/04/2002 7:24:18 PM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
Class, repeat after me: "INBREEDING."
3 posted on 06/04/2002 7:31:58 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: The Raven
They apparently did that in the Philippines and an attack was averted.

But because of political correctness and the idea that there are to be no restrictions on an individual's actions whatsoever (under the guise of protection of civil liberties), they were not rounded up in the USA and their attack worked.

Note that in the original plan they hijacked planes outside of the USA, but the intelligence services of the Philippins prevented the attack. So...they went to the one country they could be assured would not profile them--ours. And the rest is history.

4 posted on 06/04/2002 7:35:56 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: twntaipan
So...they went to the one country they could be assured would not profile them--ours. And the rest is history.

Very well put. When will we wake up?

5 posted on 06/04/2002 7:47:11 PM PDT by RodgerD
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To: RodgerD
Probably after a future attack. But then only after there is serious retribution against Muslims in the USA. That, of course, is preventable--as are future attacks--if we get serious about searching for terrorists already among us--which includes racial profiling.
6 posted on 06/04/2002 8:17:01 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: twntaipan
"Probably after a future attack. But then only after there is serious retribution against Muslims in the USA"

If there is a major attack dwarfing 9/11 or multiple attacks countrywide, I think a vigilante reaction will begin. Then the powers that be might be on the horns of a dilemma. Do they go after Americans attempting to defend themselves (however wrong) or start targeting the terrorists in a serious way as they should have from day one. Maybe then, Americans will recognize the idiots who constantly yell "Profiling" for what they are. Fools, idiots, dupes, socialists and basically aligned with the enemy.

Nam Vet

7 posted on 06/04/2002 8:59:01 PM PDT by Nam Vet
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To: The Raven
Since Sept. 11, many American experts have pointed out the parallels between the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and the "Manila plot," Mr. Yousef's plan to bomb up to 12 planes. An alternative plot considered by Mr. Yousef's group was to hijack the planes, instead of bombing them, and crash them into prominent American buildings, including the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley, Va.

The connection between the original World Trade Center bombing, the "Manila plot" (Project Bojinka--"loud bang" in "Serbo-Croatian"), and Sept. 11th centers in one country--BOSNIA!!!!

It is time to end muslim Bosnia as we know it!!!!

8 posted on 06/04/2002 9:00:38 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: OKCSubmariner; Nita Nupress; aristeides; AtticusX; thinden; Boyd; Sal
It's finally going mainstream. The NYTs is slow, but this is a significant step forward.
9 posted on 06/04/2002 9:08:33 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Honorary Serb
Aquit Slobbo!
10 posted on 06/04/2002 9:39:53 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: The Raven; mhking; Humidston; twntaipan; RodgerD; Nam Vet; Honorary Serb; Fred Mertz; rageaholic...
Ramzi Ahmed Yousef was a well know jihadist for the Bosnian Muslims and came up with a plan to use airplanes as weapons of mass destruction he named Project Bojinka "loud bang" in the Serbo-Croatian langauge of the Bosnian Muslims. Project Bojinka - US Knew Of Bin Laden Philippine-Based Airliner Crash Plots in 1995

How much Clinton's alliance with the Bosnian and Kosovo Islamic jihad undermined our security is a topic up for great debate. IMHO, I think it was our Achilles heel and may explain a lot. Accuracy In Media was the first to call this Clinton's BIN LADEN GATE

Bosnia was the main logistic hub for the 9/11 Atta Cell.

Abu Zubaydah, captured in Pakistan in March, is said to have told U.S. interrogators that the hijacked plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was destined for the White House, suggesting he knew of the planning.

"We are confirming the presence of [bin Laden’s] al-Qaeda network in Bosnia," said a spokesman for NATO-led peacekeepers. The arrests, he added, had "disrupted" the network. "[But] it has not been destroyed. Investigations are continuing." Direct links to bin Laden, in fact, focus on just one man, the apparent leader of the Algerian cell. Bensayah Belkacem, 41, alias Mejd, worked at a humanitarian agency in the central town of Zenica until his arrest earlier this month. Combing through his dingy rooms, police found two sets of identity papers (Algerian and Yemeni), blank passports, and — in his mobile phone — the number of a senior bin Laden aide, Abu Zubaydah. Like Belkacem, Zubaydah is a veteran of the Bosnian war. Investigators say he is now in charge of screening recruits for al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan. According to telephone transcripts, the men discussed the procurement of foreign passports. There was more: Belkacem made 70 calls to Afghanistan between the day of the U.S. attacks and his arrest.

UN War Crimes Prosecutor Turns Over Secret Bosnian Hijacker Info

Agent Linked Pilot Trainees, Bin Laden (Chechens Attacked USS Cole-Bosnian 9-11 Connection Revealed)

US asst. sec. of state visits Bosnia, says judicial shake-up could help international war on terror

BOSNIA AND CLINTON'S BALKANS POLICY IS THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING HOW 9/11 HAPPENED!!!

11 posted on 06/04/2002 9:52:34 PM PDT by Spar
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To: The Raven; mhking; Humidston; twntaipan; RodgerD; Nam Vet; Honorary Serb; Fred Mertz; rageaholic...
OKLAHOMA BOMBING LINKED TO BIN LADEN (Captured Chemical Notes Say in Bosnian ‘Was used in Oklahoma’)
12 posted on 06/04/2002 9:59:14 PM PDT by Spar
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To: The Raven,honway,Spar,MizSterious,nunya bidness,carenot,B4Ranch,aristeides,Spar,glorygirl,Uncle B
Khalid Mohammed worked for Samir Khalil in OKC. Khalil employed OKC bombing suspects Abraham Ahmad and the Iraqi Al Hussian Hussaini, This is according to Sharon Twilley, Samir Khalil's former secretary who identified Khalid Mophammed to authorities in OKC again in 2001 after the 9/11 attacks.

Twilley received theartening phone calls after the 9/11 attacks and sought protection. I was asked to contact someone in 2001 to help get Twilley the protection she needed.

In October 2001 a plot for another attack in OKC was described to be in the works by ME terrorists believed to have been associated with Iraqis , Hamas and possible AlQaeda terrorists connected with 9/11

13 posted on 06/04/2002 10:44:23 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: The Raven
The man described as a possible relative, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, 37, a Kuwaiti, is now believed to have been a leading figure in Osama bin Laden's Qaeda network who helped plan the attacks, officials said.

Appreciative little cuss, isn't he?

14 posted on 06/04/2002 10:45:19 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Fred Mertz
Please see reply #13.
15 posted on 06/04/2002 10:49:14 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: mhking
Please see reply #13.
16 posted on 06/04/2002 10:50:45 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Teacher317
same goes for Bosnia..
17 posted on 06/04/2002 10:57:10 PM PDT by Spar
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To: OKCSubmariner
This seems to support my position that terrorists and their families should be destroyed.
Semper Fi
18 posted on 06/04/2002 10:59:35 PM PDT by river rat
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To: OKCSubmariner
Whatever happened to BlueDem Dog ?
19 posted on 06/04/2002 11:03:13 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: OKCSubmariner;The Raven; mhking; Humidston; twntaipan; RodgerD; Nam Vet; Honorary Serb...
Secrets of Al-Qaeda: Network studied Oklahoma-style bomb "A do-it-yourself guide written by Bosnian"
20 posted on 06/04/2002 11:04:43 PM PDT by Spar
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To: Spar
Great info. Love the Captain america!
21 posted on 06/04/2002 11:08:20 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: lawdog,river rat,Uncle Bill,MizSterious,honway,glorygirl,B4Ranch,aristeides,Fred Mertz,carenot,Ro
There were AlQaeda/Abu Sayeff /Youseff.. connections to OKC bombing. I have written about the connections on FR for over two years and have known about them in detail since 1995. This is what I worked with the Pentagon terror advisor Jesse Clear about since 1995. Dallas FBI have been tracking AlQaeda terrorists the FRBI has known were connected to OKC bombing since at least 1995 -I have also written stories on the FR about this(FBI agents Danny Defenbaugh and Dan Vogel).
22 posted on 06/04/2002 11:25:45 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
And a credit to you good sir. May God bless you!
23 posted on 06/04/2002 11:27:51 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Betty Jo
Please see replies #13 and #22.
24 posted on 06/04/2002 11:30:08 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Fred Mertz
It's finally going mainstream.
You going to take Ethel out for dinner to celebrate?
25 posted on 06/05/2002 2:20:33 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: The Raven
Yet another violent raghead named Mohammad. What's new? Islam looks like a cancer, a plague, a deadly virus. No doctor worries about the free speech rights of cancer cells.
26 posted on 06/05/2002 5:02:46 AM PDT by jrlc
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To: OKCSubmariner; honway; Mizsterious; rdavis84; Fred Mertz
The assessment that Mr. Mohammed played a significant role in the attacks provides a new and direct link between the hijackings last year and the failed airline plot by Mr. Yousef's group in 1995. The estimate also suggests a connection between the first attack on the World Trade Center and its destruction.

this would also suggest a direct connection to murrah.

27 posted on 06/05/2002 5:29:39 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Nam Vet
I agree. If a large scale attack succeeds, lots of vigilantism will result. That will be unfortunate, but it will be a direct result of failure to do what was needed to prevent attacks. If the bureucracy won't, the people will.
28 posted on 06/05/2002 5:52:03 AM PDT by twntaipan
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To: lawdog;OKC submariner
Bump!!!!!!!

And a credit to you good sir. May God bless you!

29 posted on 06/05/2002 6:10:50 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Nam Vet
Round them all up!

Deport them all!

30 posted on 06/05/2002 6:22:55 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Spar
Lets see.... a newspaper artile published on September 13, 2001, talking about planes crashing into buildings.

Hmmmm....

Calling Condi....Condiiii,Condiiii Rice!

31 posted on 06/05/2002 6:30:02 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: OKCSubmariner
From your # 13 post

AL-Hussian Hussaini.....who after OKC Murrah went on to work at LOGAN AIRPORT in Boston.

These guys do get around, don't they?

32 posted on 06/05/2002 6:34:26 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: OKCSubmariner
Khalid Mohammed worked for Samir Khalil in OKC

Thank you for this important information.
Are there any dates available for when Khalid Mohammed worked for Khalil in OKC?

I think it is likely the feds are aware of the Samir Khalil - Khalid Mohammed connection. If so, the only logical conclusion to draw from this information is mind boggling for me.

Do you know of a thread that records what is known of the Samir Khalil - OKC bombing connection?

33 posted on 06/05/2002 7:02:35 AM PDT by honway
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To: swampfx;all
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39d6eb725dac.htm

Assistant US Attorney Murdered or Suicided For Investigating Federal Cover-up of OKC Bombing?

This link provides more information on Samir Khalil, for anyone interested. It is another great example of the fine work OKCSubmariner has shared on the FreeRepublic.

34 posted on 06/05/2002 7:11:18 AM PDT by honway
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To: Fred Mertz; OKCSubmariner
Yes, the connection between Iraq and 9/11 is gradually being fleshed out.
35 posted on 06/05/2002 7:13:16 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: The Great Satan
FYI.
36 posted on 06/05/2002 7:13:56 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: honway
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39d6eb725dac.htm

In 1997, Assistant Us Attorney, Ted Richardson, was found dead near his church in OKC with a shotgun wound to his chest. He was married, was a sports hunter and active with his sons in the Boys Scouts and his church. The US Attorney, Patrick Ryan returned to OKC from Denver during the McVeigh trial to the OKC office of the US Attorney, once he learned of his assistant’s death.

Richardson had been investigating a Middle Eastern man, Samir Khalil, in OKC for income tax evasion and HUD property scams. Khalil has a Jordanian passport. Richardson was abruptly taken off the investigation of Khalil just before the results of his investigation was to be submitted to a grand jury and just after Khalil’s name came up in the news media in connection with the OKC bombing in May 1995.

Khalil was divorced from his wife, Carol Khalil, who was killed in the Murrah Building. Khalil is alleged to have had a large life insurance policy on his wife. And it is believed that Carol Khalil had keys and other access to the Murrah Building which could have been obtained husband.

37 posted on 06/05/2002 7:16:13 AM PDT by honway
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To: aristeides; Fred Mertz; OKCSubmariner
The connection is to Bosnia as a base and a possible explanation as to why these guys were not blocked (because of their Bosnian Muslim ties). Did Iraq give the money? I can't see as diirect evidence for Iraqi involvement beyond maybe money?
38 posted on 06/05/2002 10:25:26 AM PDT by Spar
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To: philman_36; okcsubmariner; betty jo;honway;fred mertz
Ethel deserves a steak dinner at least.

My question is, how long is it going to take before somebody on Capitol Hill, or at the FBI, is going to go public with the Yousef/OKC connection?

Is there still lots more we don't know about this, OKCsubmariner?

It seems to me, with all the breast beating and mea culpas floating around Washington, something relatively significant is still being held back. The media recounts just about every terrorist event that has taken places from the early 90s on except one, when they discuss the intelligence hearings now underway.

What about Robert Wright?

And just, for clarification, has Burton officially announced hearings in the fall?

Just kind of weird. Anybody willing to hazard a guess on which, if any, "major news organization" is finally going to give this story credibility?

39 posted on 06/05/2002 10:37:59 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl;OKCSubmariner;honway;Fred Mertz;Ann Archy;iwentsouth;lawdog;rdavis
When the media gets around to realizing that the two administrations,Clinton and Bush have both covered up the ME connections to Murrah,we may all be dead from not realizing the connections!

Think about that!

Two presidnts have known that Islamic Terrorists were involved in OKC and continued to lie to the public.

One of them went to "WORK" at Logan Airport in Boston!

Remember who left from the Boston Logan on September 11,2001 ?

40 posted on 06/05/2002 10:58:50 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: honway; Wallaby; OKCsubmariner; rdavis84
good question from honway's post:

Are there any dates available for when Khalid Mohammed worked for Khalil in OKC?

41 posted on 06/05/2002 12:28:18 PM PDT by thinden
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To: glorygirl
Anybody willing to hazard a guess on which, if any, "major news organization" is finally going to give this story credibility?

My guess is none of them. The individuals and organizations that participated in the cover-up of the Middle Eastern terrorist network connection to the OKC bombing are responsible for the lives lost and the destruction of 9-11. No organization was a more willing participant in the cover-up than the mainstream media. They have blood on their hands, just like the FBI and both the Clinton and Bush Administrations.

42 posted on 06/05/2002 1:35:03 PM PDT by honway
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To: swampfx
bump
43 posted on 06/06/2002 6:15:43 AM PDT by honway
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To: lawdog
I believe you are referring to BlueDogDemo. His last post was on 2/19/02.
44 posted on 06/06/2002 9:29:30 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: The Raven
Locator bump^
45 posted on 06/14/2002 2:15:17 PM PDT by backhoe
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