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The Disintegration of the FBI
Newsmax.com ^ | Friday, May 31, 2002 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 05/31/2002 8:55:13 AM PDT by Kermit

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The first thing Clinton did upon taking office was to fire all the US Attorneys. The second thing he did was use the FBI to frame Billy Dale and then on July 19, 1993, Clinton fired FBI Director William Sessions, the first time a FBI Director was fired. When you're planning a crime wave, you get rid of the cops. The day after firing Sessions, Vince Foster was murdered.
1 posted on 05/31/2002 8:55:14 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: Alamo-Girl;joanie-f;snopercod;mommadooo3
Bump.
2 posted on 05/31/2002 9:19:41 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Kermit
The first thing Clinton did upon taking office was to fire all the US Attorneys. The second thing he did was use the FBI to frame Billy Dale and then on July 19, 1993, Clinton fired FBI Director William Sessions, the first time a FBI Director was fired. When you're planning a crime wave, you get rid of the cops. The day after firing Sessions, Vince Foster was murdered.

See also Clinton's actions in Arkansas immediately after taking office as governor there, and the still-unsolved sniper murder of Little Rock UPI statehouse bureau reporter Judy Daniaelak a few months after the rape of Juanita Broderick by then-Arkansas Attorney General Clinton. Little Rock and Arkansas State Police stepped all over themselves in the scramble to claim the shooting was a *random event* or accident.

She was shot with a pistol, likely from a car moving alongside hers on a North Little Rock highway. And the caliber was consistent with those used by Arkansas State Police at the time.

-archy-/-

3 posted on 05/31/2002 9:26:50 AM PDT by archy
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To: Kermit
Don't forget the 900 FBI files, that the FBI illegally sent to Bill Clinton.
4 posted on 05/31/2002 10:37:41 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Kermit
bttt
5 posted on 05/31/2002 10:38:59 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: Kermit
Not to give the lie to anything else said here, but the 'respectable' FBI whose passing is lamented here never existed outside the entertainment industry. The real FBI was a tool J. Edgar Hoover used to sieze headlines and power, never anything else.

Why is kidnapping a federal crime? Because Hoover couldn't bear to see all the print on the Lindberg kidnapping, and none of it coming his way.

6 posted on 05/31/2002 10:42:53 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Kermit
When Director Mueller was first appointed to his job, NewsMax.com called on him in an open letter to do just that. To date he has not.

NewsMax has to realize that Mueller only took office on Sep 05, 2001, a mere 6 days before the attacks. I am sure, especially given his recent unwarranted a$$ reaming by the leftist media for not being clairvoyant and knowing facts that he was not provided until recently, that he has been extremely busy reviewing his "troops" actions, or inactions, as the case may be.

As they say, "to everything there is a season"...this is the season for Mueller to review the FBI's ineptness at handling the info on the terrorist attacks, and devise ways to correct the problems, not to dig up old cases to review strictly for the satisfaction of NewsMax and their subscribers. Only when we are sure that the FBI is reorganized and functioning properly (after the 8 years of corruption as cited in the article) and can protect the American people in the future, should we take a look at past cases. Why the folks at NewsMax can't realize this simple logic is beyond me.

7 posted on 05/31/2002 10:53:23 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Kermit
The FBI isn't disintegrating. It's becoming. It's becoming a tool of the Empire. Contrary to xenophobic nativist assertions, it's functioning just as it should. It's opened several new offices along the Pakistan border, you know. Yes, everything is going swimmingly. You just have to learn to look at it from the proper angle.

And it didn't begin with Bill Clinton. Is there a treatment for aggrevated Clinton-itis? Some people need some bad. Their vision is impaired by gazing always at the Clinton years--which are in fact seamlessly attached to the years before and after.

8 posted on 05/31/2002 11:14:08 AM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Kermit
Now we are getting what NewsMax should have been doing all along instead of trashing President Bush.

The facts here have been long known by FR readers.

Why do you think we held a March for Justice in 1998?

It wasn't about Monica Lewinsky. It was about high crimes and misdemeanors by Clinton. Treasonous crimes.

Clinton thinks he got away with them all.

May God let it be that finally, now that the FBI debacle has come to light, that some within that agency who know the worst truths about the CLinton crimes - will come forward to redeem themselves - and to put the blame squarely where this writer puts it for what has happened to the FBI and to our country.

I believe Hillary Clinton and the DNC operatives KNEW the S. was about to H.T.F, and did a pre-emptive strike with her and her fellow terrorists in the DNC marching in lockstep attack on President Bush for having known about September 11th before it happened and for failing to stop it.

I believe this attempt to tarnish the President with charges of actions she and her fellow Clintonistas DID COMMIT (preknowledge of the Sept. 11th plans) was intended to protect herself and X42 from the scrutiny that should start flying their way with the FBI "disintegration" evidence which is now coming into public view.

The next thing that will happen is that the DNC will come forward and say, all this needs to stop because we need the FBI. The Bush admimistration will say the same thing.

But I for one hope the "whistleblowers" - the legitimate ones (because there will be fake ones who still work for the Clintons) - will be given the freedom to report what they know to Congress and/or whatever outlet is set up for them.

Message to the Clintonista traitors: NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS FIND YOU OUT - EVENTUALLY!

9 posted on 05/31/2002 11:24:23 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Grut
My response to your post is more of an argument-within-the-argument. Let's pass for a moment a debate on the very idea of a Federal police force--an arguably corrupt and corrupting concept. And let's forget the inane, perhaps even wicked, laws--like prohibition--that aided and abetted the growth of the Federal tumor.

Hoover's FBI was a more accurate reflection of the fears of the average American than the "new and improved" FBI. The average American loathed atheistic commies and their red-diaper babies. They loathed foreigners who came here to tell them that they were at the proper state of industiral evolution for a dictatorship of the proles.

The behavior of FBI agents was more in keeping with middle class Americans' notions of proper comportment. I happened to hear a sort of running commentary from an elderly, long-retired agent living on a Maine Island at the time of the Waco massacre. My outrage and disbelief were AS NOTHING compared to his. Whether one thinks Julius and Ethel Rosenberg deserved the death penalty or not, the fact is they were granted due process. The men who arrested them were dressed in suits, not Ninja costumes. They did not drive tanks and wield flamethrowers. There are levels of vileness. Or, perhaps you think I'm being too fine in my lines here.

In all the tales of Hoover's "blackmail" of "great" leaders from FDR to LBJ, no one seems to consider the other side of the equation---the contempt Hoover must have had for these men and their craven unwillingness to confront him; as well as their venal habit of using him against their enemies. In a strange sort of, admittedly byzantine, way Hoover was more of a representativeof middle-class whitey than the elected versions.

The FBI, more than being merely politicized, has been drafted into the Class War between average (read:"white", "middle-class" or "red-neck") Americans and their globalist masters. The FBI is now wholly a creature of Imperial Washington DC. It can shoot the eye out of a mother holding her baby in a remote cabin in Idaho, but it can't isssue a search warrant for murderous Saudi jihadists.

Many people would gladly take Hoover's giant ego over the squriming little careerists and multi-culturalists who preside personally over the mass murder of infants and mothers or watch with palms sweating as foreigners slaughter us en masse

And so forth, and so on.....

10 posted on 05/31/2002 11:29:06 AM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: First_Salute
I actually read the entire 500-page DOJ report on the Ruby Ridge "affair" a few years ago.

It was merciless in it's criticism of the FBI, especially the DC crime-lab which managed to get itself cited for contempt of court a number of times for losing or destroying evidence.

Much of the testimony of the agents involved was "redacted" under the Garrity ruling. As I understand it, Garrity says "Yes, you must testify against yourself in this administrative hearing, but we won't print your testimony so that nobody will know what you did."

11 posted on 05/31/2002 11:39:56 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Kermit
"The first thing Clinton did upon taking office was to fire all the US Attorneys. The second thing he did was use the FBI to frame Billy Dale and then on July 19, 1993, Clinton fired FBI Director William Sessions, the first time a FBI Director was fired. When you're planning a crime wave, you get rid of the cops. The day after firing Sessions, Vince Foster was murdered."

Exactly. And the FBI said nothing as it was turned into a politicized garbage scowl for Clinton.

12 posted on 05/31/2002 12:22:30 PM PDT by Reactionary
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Certainly the FBI was a tool of the Clinton group, but I would have to say they were a quite willing tool.
13 posted on 05/31/2002 12:27:08 PM PDT by cynicom
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"As they say, "to everything there is a season"...this is the season for Mueller to review the FBI's ineptness at handling the info on the terrorist attacks, and devise ways to correct the problems, not to dig up old cases to review strictly for the satisfaction of NewsMax and their subscribers."

I think that you miss the point entirely. As long as the criminal behavior of the FBI is ignored, those in leadership positions will be immune to any serious efforts at reform.

After all, they're the ones with inside knowledge concerning the criminal behavior of the government. This serves to make them bulletproof - and a far greater threat to national security because they can be blackmailed.

14 posted on 05/31/2002 12:27:48 PM PDT by Reactionary
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In sum, Garrity means that should you have information likely to help the defendant, it is mandated that that information is given to the defendant from the prosecution.
15 posted on 05/31/2002 6:33:22 PM PDT by TheBlueMax
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To: First_Salute, Kermit
Thanks for the flag, Mike. And thanks for posting this, Kermit. It defines much of the real (at least domestic) 'legacy' left behind by Bill Clinton.

And your observations, Kermit:

The first thing Clinton did upon taking office was to fire all the US Attorneys. The second thing he did was use the FBI to frame Billy Dale and then on July 19, 1993, Clinton fired FBI Director William Sessions, the first time a FBI Director was fired. When you're planning a crime wave, you get rid of the cops. The day after firing Sessions, Vince Foster was murdered.

are right on the money (with very few in the mainstream media ever managing to connect the dots. They're not actually too ignorant to do so….simply unwilling.)

16 posted on 05/31/2002 6:50:00 PM PDT by joanie-f
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To: TheBlueMax
Thanks. I don't know if anybody was being prosecuted; All I saw was that the words spoken by the agents to the DOJ were missing from the report, and replaced with the word "Garrity". Some other testimony was replaced with another word that I can't recall at the moment.
17 posted on 06/01/2002 3:56:03 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: joanie-f;Kermit;Freedom Wins;First_Salute
I just stumbled across this in my archives. Maybe it doesn't directly relate to this thread, but then again...from Sept., 1999:

Clinton Doubts FBI's Motives

19 posted on 06/01/2002 4:04:29 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
>The FBI isn't disintegrating. It's becoming. It's becoming a tool of the Empire




Like this guy?

Anakin was a "victim" of a vast conspiracy theory created and implemented by a SITH Dark Lord... Do you see such a vast conspiracy going on behind the scene of real life?

-- Kiss of the Sith

20 posted on 06/01/2002 2:30:53 PM PDT by KissOfTheSith
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