Posted on 05/16/2002 9:10:34 PM PDT by Pokey78
Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The president sacrifices whatever he must to win the war--just as FDR did.
Let me tell you what I think of the criticism that President Bush (a) reversed a half century of Republican philosophy on free trade and caved in on tariffs, and (b) accepted and endorsed a big-government farm bill that was so greasy, pork-filled and fat-laden that if you took the Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002 in your hand and held a match to it would hiss, pop and sizzle like bacon in a big black skillet.
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Bush has toss'ed his base out in the cold by far more than a hundred votes. I rush to the television now to turn him off when he comes on, I can't bear to look at the man or listen to what he has to say. What he is saying probably isn't in my native tongue anyway.
I think 2004 will be a very interesting election given the Democrats habit of stuffing a couple of million bogus votes in the ballot boxes and given that a small, but possibly critical, percentage of the base will go fishing that day.
The base will forgive him, the nonbase hasn't noticed he did anything that needs forgiveness, and the opposition can hardly knock him for taking policy positions they've long supported.
The opposition will knock him for anything. They are not consistent, and logic fails them.
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Most of those being polled don't know what is happening to them or have given up caring.
Bush replaces busts of Roosevelt, JFK
REPUBLICANS BLAME FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT
George the New Dealer, the next FDR. LOL! This keeps getting better by the day.
When people like Peggy Noonan say things like this I just get so depressed. It is true that it means nothing to any of them. They are paid political hacks or prostitutes. Makes me wonder why I care at all? Politics sucks. Today did nothing more than affirm that impression for me. I'm SO TEMPTED to just tune out. Probably wasn't the intent of Peggy's article but that's what it says to me. It's just a stupid game, forgetaboutit.
She overestimate's FDR. With a Democratic Congress & a liberal Court cowed by it to him, he couldn't get his program through. FDR haters here fail to understand that he essentially caved on most of the most important parts of his agenda.
His Uncle (once removed) equally took refuge in a political trench, although history can't see it. TR didn't get half -- hell, he didn't get a 1/3 of what he wanted through Congress. Both he and FDR won the PR battle but lost the legislative battle.
Bush is doing the same thing.
Lament it, but you'll be fighting history (with my sympathies)
Does this explain why the Bush adminstration has ignored credible evidence that the Clinton administration and democRATS tampered with our election process (by voter fraud and by adding millions of illegal contributions from communists to their campaign coffers), the privacy of individuals and many Republican leaders (inorder to blackmail them), sold US secrets and restricted data for more campaign cash (some call that treason), abused the IRS (used it to harass political opponents), abused the FBI and DOJ (corrupted both to cover up their misdeeds), abused the military (used it to wag the dog repeatedly), murdererd high level government employees who were deemed unreliable (like Foster and Brown), and committed mass murder (in order to kill Brown)? Is there ANYTHING that Bush is not willing to sacrifice in this war against terrorists ... who NEVER posed or could pose a threat to what this country is (and its not "buildings" and "people")? The sad truth is that if Bush sacrifices the Constitution and our laws to "win" this war ... we have lost.
So Mr. Bush is doing an FDR, and angering only a base that will forgive him.
Don't be so sure.
FDR would sacrifice anything, he'd tack left right and center, to win World War II. You can almost literally trace the end of FDR's New Deal legislation to the beginning of the war in Europe in September 1939.
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This analogy is ridiculous. In WWII we had to build entire large armies, navies, and air forces starting with nothing. We had millions of men in uniform actively fighting a war. Today we have a very very limited effort. There are no Normandy invasions, battles of Midway and the Coral Sea or Iwo Jimas. I used to count train cars full of artillary and armor during WWII as a kid. I'd see trains well over 300 cars long pulled by three steam engines. There's nothing approaching that today.
Noonan is desperately trying to excuse Bush. It won't sell at my house. This kind of attempted spin is an insult to anyone's intelligence. This quality of thought has been typical of Bush and his supporters and has been a mojor factor in my disgust with Bush and the enrite scene.
It's time to cut out the spin and bullcrap and get serious.
Obviously the Democrats are too dumb to come in out of the rain. They will do anything to get power, even if it means there isn't a country to have power IN. They don't know how even to act in their own best interests, much less the country's.
It's time to cut out the spin and bullcrap and get serious.
I agree. I don't know what has happened to this terribly intelligent woman lately. Maybe I over estimated her. She's an incredibly talented wordsmith. Maybe that's as far as it goes.
Even before this current assault by the media and Democrats implying Bush had advance knowledge of 9/11, some conservatives like Rush have been attacking him relentlessly without regard to upcoming elections. That didn't hurt his poll numbers, but I'll be interested in seeing his numbers in a few days after this out of control barrage on TV, radio, and front pages.
Maybe. But please, please no more tattoo removal parlors, thank you.
"Ann Coulter could eat her lunch off Paul Begala's head and use his tie as a napkin"
The best way to win over the minds of the liberals is to make them use their minds in an intelligent manner rather than falling to the invidious sales pitches of their political leaders.
Cheers.
"Ann Coulter could eat her lunch off Paul Begala's head and use his tie as a napkin"
That's no big deal. If Begala would just lean back a bit, the entire city of NY could eat their lunch off his forehead.
Pokey, you forgot the BARF ALERT.
I think she did quite well... in light of her topic.
Rather than fishing, how about clean and test firing a few weapons?
We love you, okay?
We love you, and we loved What I Saw at the Revolution, and we loved Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
We forgave you when you went a bit crazy, after 911. You lost friends, and it was a tough time for everybody, and anyone could get a bit too emotional and write some silly stuff, when they're going through something like that. And you're known for your loyalty; to Pat Buchanan, to President Reagan, and now President Bush. But this is too much :
..I think the criticisms are wholly legitimate. I think they are correct. And I think they miss the point...
Conservatives don't do twee, okay? Now get it together, 'cause your rep is on a knife-edge at the moment. Don't force us to turn on you like we (justifiably) turned on Arianna, okay, babe?
Anyone ever tell you you got a real mean streak, Tauzero? :)
I guess the point here is that one must be a hard leftist to win a war. I couldn't disagree more.
- Sign a direct unconstitutional assault on the First Amendment
- Prop up a failing steel industry with confiscated tax dollars
- Prop up farmers who can't figure out how to do their damn jobs efficiently with confiscated tax dollars
- Back off on any effort to even slightly relieve taxpayers of their burden
- Create an even more-rapidly expanding Big Stupid Government
I'm done with Bush the Wimp II; Noonan's rationalizations are just lame attempts to prop up political parasites.
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She can be twisted though vanity and desperation to believe she is dead wrong. Like many other people she sees what she wants to see and moves heaven and earth in her personal commitment to see it. She also can be bought. She wants to become an "in" figure in this administration.
Back in the age of the big woods Rush Limbaugh was extremely critical of Bush Senior. Bush flattered Rush by having him stay overnight in the White House. Rush came back high as a kite and begain contradicting everything he had been saying for a year.
I am personally going to start refering to Bush Bashers in the same way as I refer to whining, crying, petty, selfish little liberals....AS AMERICA HATERS!!!
If she compared Bush to Clinton, then there wouldnt be more than a paragraph. Clinton never tried to destroy Alqueda or UBL after the embassy attacks (2), Cole attack and the WTC attack. Speculation is that Oklahoma was also part of the UBL doings. There were so many terrorist attacks during Clinton's time but NO WAR was ever declared. Clinton pales in comparison to Bush.
He refused to allow investigations of Clinton to go forward.
He showed the quality of his "compassion" for his countrymen, on the morning of 9-11 by refusing to allow the FBI to continue to hold the personal jet of the Saudi Royal family for questioning, and allowed them to wing their way out of the reach of American justice for their part in 9-11. The only plane allowed in the air that dark day.
He again showed his quality of "compassion" for his countrymen on the eve of 9-11, by coddling the heads of terrorist charity fronts on national tv, calling on our compassion and understanding.
And who can forget the Rahmadan festivities at the "Peoples House" while calling Christmas, "The Holiday Season". People's House? Homeland Defense? What's with the communist name tags on everything? The danged place is called the White House, this isn't der homeland, it's the NATION. He should try to remember that in his Spanish speeches while saying "When a man can make 50 an hour in Michigan, and 5 bucks at home in Mexico, he's going to come" (big wink and smile).
Now he has signed CFR, Stem Cell Research, Steel Tariffs, a huge pork barrel Farm Bill, and worse, twice now has tried to sneak 245i past frightened Americans.
I don't think he's doing such a hot job on the war on terrorism either. He's been all over the board on it. If voting for him is your plan to "save the lives of yourself and your children", I have sad news, the Nation may not survive till 2004 if we are subjected to anymore of his brand of compassion.
I am a member of no family but my own. I am united only with like minded individuals with fire in their belly. Maybe it will ease your mind that I am not a member of the Republican family. I am a registered independent who votes for conservatives only. I'll write in my candidate, Tancredo.
LEARN!!! WE ARE IN A . . . WAR AGAINST BOTH THE TERRORISTS AND THE LIBERALS!
The only weakness in this article is that FDR went to war against three nations, Bush is fighting against terrorists. That is like fighting a war on poverty or on drugs; how we doing on those wars anyhow?
Why are Democratic operatives more effective? Because they see politics as total war. When you see yourself as a captain in a great unending struggle you not only fight harder, you rationalize fighting meaner. Why are Republican operatives less effective? Most of them don't believe politics is total war. It's only about government, it's not as big and important as life. If they thought it were that big they'd fight as if it were total war, but they wouldn't be Republicans; they'd be people who think government is everything.Noonan says too much, and not enough, about relations between Republicans and the press. Journalists, like all entertainers, like a simple black-and-white meladrama. Democrats--whether politicians or trial lawyers or unionists or black militants--give journalists exactly that.If a GOP operative . . . attempts to be as crude and manipulative as a Paul Begala, and actually succeeds, the press will not say he is a worthy opponent. The press will paint him as dark-jowled and Nixonian, a hater, a hammer. The press doesn't like rude Republicans.
Republicans, not only the rank and file but the more prosperous as well, see themselves as promoting the general welfare by the mundane act of doing their jobs and being tolerant of each other in our private and institutional capacities. In other words, Republicans are boring. To journalists as with all entertainers, being boring is the unforgivable sin.
The miracle is not, then, that journalism is de facto a part of the Democratic Party. The amazing thing is that with the journalistic propaganda wind squarely at its back the Democrats do not always win every election.So yes, we are at war with liberals. But no, we are not "at war with terrorism." The very fact that "terrorism" is not a nation would tell you that we are not "at war." This is Cold War II. And just as Cold War I would have been a relative cakewalk without a fifth-column to contend with, just so does liberalism--socialism, really--constitute the main problem today. For without it, our Assassin Sect enemies would despair and turn to other pursuits.
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