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View for sale: $30,000 New owner of a lake fences it off when homeowners wouldn't pay.
St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 14, 2002 | ROBERT FARLEY

Posted on 05/14/2002 5:05:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: ET(end tyranny)
Oops, I left off the reference to "You Are Here's" rant about fences and privacy.

My basic point is, the law is the law. You may not like it, but you can't wish it away.

After reading this thread for far too long I've come to the conclusion that the lake owner is a jerk, the home owners are jerks, but property is property.

If there is not a law against his fence, then he has every right to put one up.

There is no way the government will step in and force him to sell the lake. There is no "public interest" other than the property values of a small number of home owners. They really haven't lost any actual value, they never really had it to begin with.

Their best solution would be to form a corporation with the sole purpose of buying him out. Get 100% compliance will all the homeowners affected and offer him, say $10,000 total. Make it clear that you will pay no more than that. Make certain that the tax accessor understands that you do not have lake front property and that he does. If he doesn't agree quick, taxes will eat into his profit from the $10,000 offer.

If he stands firm, he will have an expensive piece of useless property.

561 posted on 05/14/2002 10:29:36 AM PDT by Crusher138
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To: AppyPappy
Had a wetlands too.

I almost bought a place with a nice pond on it. It, too, was declared a wetlands. I took a pass on the property.

It was suggested earlier that the homeowners were stupid and lazy to have not known that someone would come in and purchase the pond. The same can be said of the lake owner, to have purchased a lake, erected a pink fence, and to not suspect that his actions could result in a condemnation/public takings.

There is too much stupidity on all sides of this case to hope to document.

562 posted on 05/14/2002 10:29:48 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, you should be very thankful that you haven't seen eminent domain being abused to give politically connected private parties commercial land at sweetheart prices.

It happens all over the place, though. You do need to keep an eye on who your city and county officials are schmoozing with--that will usually give you an early warning "WASSSUP!"

563 posted on 05/14/2002 10:31:31 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: You are here
Well the thing is, he STARTED OUT that way, but they acted like a bunch of arrogant pricks, drove their own property marker stakes INTO HIS LAND, and refused his offer. And THAT is when he said fine, you wanna play hardball, we'll play hardball. Those chad-eaters do NOT have my sympathy, not in the least.

Nor mine. I agree with you wholeheartedly on the order of events as you described. What I tried to lay out for the other poster is what I think was the best strategy (still might be) for the homeowners. At this point, I'd expect they'll need to crawl to him on their knees to get his asking price down, but it could still happen.

Bottom line: government isn't the solution to this. If the homeowners were to leverage their purchasing power they likely stand to do a bit better than $30,000 apiece.

564 posted on 05/14/2002 10:32:11 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: ThomasJefferson
There are lots of cases, I can tell you about some if you're bored.

I'm sure there are; just as there are misuses of firearms. However, both are morally-neutral tools that are reasonable in terms of their possession. I would fight the misuse of this law, not its existence.

565 posted on 05/14/2002 10:32:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Area51
It is obvious this mindset is what the past twenty years of Suburb explosion has created.

AMEN!

566 posted on 05/14/2002 10:32:18 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Lazamataz
Whatever, Mr. Statist.

Gadzooks! I never thought I'd see the day that the inventor of the easilyconcealabledriveby12gaugehighcapacityassaultrevolver (action figure sold seperately) would suffer the libel of "statist".

567 posted on 05/14/2002 10:34:19 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Wm Bach
What a tangled web we weave.....
568 posted on 05/14/2002 10:34:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ThomasJefferson
tommy, if he were using his property for his individual rights
smoking pot
orgies
something his neighbors didn't approve of
walking around naked
I'd support him to the hilt, why should his neighbors deprive him of his rights
but that is not the case here
his only reason for having property is to ''rob'' his neighbors
I don't know law so can't say how judge can come down hard
but he is legally preying on people
and judge should find some way to discourage it
Love, Palo
569 posted on 05/14/2002 10:35:28 AM PDT by palo verde
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To: Poohbah
Laz, you should be very thankful that you haven't seen eminent domain being abused to give politically connected private parties commercial land at sweetheart prices.

This misuse should be fought, prosecuted, and the corrupt politicians brought under the State Atty. Generals close examination. People should be sent to jail for such things.

That said, there are many good and reasonable applications of Eminent Domain. I have seen highways get needed expansion, exits from thruways get created, farmland turned into forever-wild parks in the face of increasingly dense development, and so on. These are good uses of this law, and I would wager that for every corrupt use of the law, there are 1000 good uses of it.

Kinda like guns.

571 posted on 05/14/2002 10:35:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Wm Bach
Gadzooks! I never thought I'd see the day that the inventor of the easilyconcealabledriveby12gaugehighcapacityassaultrevolver (action figure sold seperately) would suffer the libel of "statist".

LOL! Some people whip out that Statist label if you disagree with their particular vision of utter Road-Warrior-Mad-Max anarchy. :o)

572 posted on 05/14/2002 10:36:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Wm Bach
There is too much stupidity on all sides of this case to hope to document.

LOL! Agreed.

573 posted on 05/14/2002 10:38:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: strela
If you could point out anyone in this thread who has done so, I might agree that your post had a point.

Post #2 on this thread, by none other than yourself, Strela;
The fence is wood construction, eh? It would be an awful shame if every board-foot happened to catch on fire and burn one dark night.

However, since I haven't seen such a post here, I struggle to understand why you would make such a general statement in support of law and order (especially considering some of the stuff I've seen you post in drug war threads).

I guess your struggle is over. I won't wait for a retraction much less an apology. I've seen your tricks before. Now I'll wait to see how you try to wiggle out of your own words. I'm sure you will think of something.

575 posted on 05/14/2002 10:38:38 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Crusher138
Oops, I left off the reference to "You Are Here's" rant about fences and privacy.

My basic point is, the law is the law. You may not like it, but you can't wish it away.

I agree with your whole post, and I too, stayed with the thread a lot longer than I normally would have. I figured eventually someone would be able to clear up the privacy fence versus a neighbors deck 'issue'. And you did!! lol

576 posted on 05/14/2002 10:38:51 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: E Rocc
Why in the hell would anyone want to live within feet of a pond full of alligators anyway. LOL!

Because they taste good? >:) -Eric

Haha ha ha. LOL!

577 posted on 05/14/2002 10:39:16 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Lazamataz
Absolutely true--eminent domain does have lots of legitimate uses. Unfortunately, the abuse rate is skyrocketing. And forget getting the State AG to investigate: a simple "insurance" donation to his warchest will give him an advanced case of Nelson's Eye...
578 posted on 05/14/2002 10:39:58 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Lazamataz
...since the Founding Fathers were the ones who established the premises on which Eminent Domain law is foundationed.

Not to butt in, but isn't Eminent Domain based on even older British law?

579 posted on 05/14/2002 10:39:59 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: AppyPappy
Down with property taxes. Property taxes provide funds for the rat hole public schools and funds to pay the hospital bills of those who don't pay their hospital bills.
Property taxes are a burden on the elderly. A person should not have to 'rent' their property from the government.
Many people are forced to pay even though they have no chilren in school, are not on water or sewer, get no garbage collection don't use the government 'big top' entertainment complex. They just want to be left alone.

As we can see, the property tax system breeds ilk like this Connolly guy.

580 posted on 05/14/2002 10:41:18 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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